Sylvain CANOINE wrote: >> De: "Jonathan Billings" <billings at negate.org> >> Maybe you're not aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that >> systemd fixes that people are happy about. > Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before > systemd appeared. > Agreed. The speed of boot and shutdown? Whoop-de-do. I've got HP servers that take about 70 second BEFORE THE LOGO ever comes up, just blank screen, before POST. And my servers - for at least a lot of them, I've got once a month maintenance windows to reboot. Some, maybe once every three months. Why should I care about speed of reboot? That matters on someone's laptop, but the rest? Or the annoyance with NetMangler, that in 7 is not only noisy, but keeps wanting to do stuff with wifi... on a wired workstation, and I have yet to figure out how to shut it up. Or systemctl restart somethingorother, that gives *ZERO* warm fuzzies while running, just nothing, and you have to run another command to find out what happened. Or the non-plain-text configuration files, which are just *wonderful* NOT when you're in linux rescue. Just because you *can* do something does not mean you *should*. mark