Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 02:30:15PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: >> Jonathan Billings wrote: >> >> >> > Maybe you're not >> >> > aware of it, but there are a LOT of things that systemd fixes that >> >> > people are happy about. >> >> >> Like what ? I don't remember there were as many errors to fix before >> >> systemd appeared. >> >> > I suggest reading the previous emails (SOME OF WHICH YOU REPLIED TO) >> > that listed many of the features people are happy about. >> >> I don't take a position in the systemd argument, >> but you said that systemd fixes lots of problems. >> It is perfectly reasonable to ask you to name one of these problems, >> perhaps the one you think is most important. > > Well, here's a great one. I agree with Matthew: > > https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2016-January/157399.html <snip> Well, that's interesting, about making sure it's stopped. I've asked here a month or two ago, and got no responses: my manager has me using pmount/pumount to mount the hard drives I'm putting in the eSATA drive bay for offline backups. Formerly, I used mount/umount, and when I umounted it, and walked downstairs, mostly, esp the green drives, were spun down. I pumount... and *nothing* spins down. They stay spinning, which is obvious, as I can feel the gyroscopic action as I pop them out immediately after hitting the button to turn off the power to the drive. That box is running CentOS 7. mark