[CentOS] Just need to vent

Tue Jan 26 16:47:55 UTC 2016
Chris Adams <linux at cmadams.net>

Once upon a time, Always Learning <centos at u64.u22.net> said:
> Is systemd the beneficial, reliable, useful and workable "improved init
> system" or something with circa 275,000 lines of coding compared to
> init's circa 10,000 lines ?  Things I have learned in programming
> include modular is better than monolithic, and less code better than
> M$-style bloatware which systemd appears to be.

You should also have learned in programming the lines of code is a
virtually useless measuring stick.  OMG, the kernel has over four
million lines of code!  BREAK IT UP!

There is always a trade-off between modularity and functionality.
Sometimes modularity comes with a functionality and/or complexity cost.
PID 1 on a Unix-like system really does have special properties, and so
some functionality can only be implemented (at least in a practical
fashion) in PID 1.

Would you rather a bunch of that "magic" of PID 1 that systemd handles
get shoved into the kernel (so that PID 1 isn't so special)?

> Just what is Fedora's and Red Hat's Plan B when the revolt against
> systemd escalates ?   Whom is going to apologise for fouling-up Red
> Hat's EL and our beloved Centos ?

Yawn.  I haven't seen that there's a "revolt" except for a vocal
minority.  Some of the "no change" arguments sound very much similar to
the SELinux, xfs/ext4/ext3, Apache 2, gcc/egcs, glibc, ELF, etc.
arguments over the years.  A vocal group doesn't like change, argues
against it, and presents itself as the voice of the silent majority
(that somehow keep upgrading to new versions with all the terrible

Chris Adams <linux at cmadams.net>