I just had to browse to a printer... and with https-use-strict at a server higher up, firefox *would* *not* let me get there. I don't see the circa-2012 printer offering https. Luckily, there was konqueror, which *did* let me go to http://<printer> I just *adore* SmartSoftware that Won't Let You Endanger Yourself.... Reminds me of Jack Williamson's old novel, The Humanoids. (You aren't allowed to use that sharp knife, you might cut yourself. Or drive yourself. Or....) mark