Sent from BlackBerry Passport Original Message From: centos-request at centos.org Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2016 5:30 PM To: centos at centos.org Reply To: centos at centos.org Subject: CentOS Digest, Vol 134, Issue 12 Send CentOS mailing list submissions to centos at centos.or',g To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-request at centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-owner at centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5 (centos-announce-request at centos.org) 2. Re: Openshot 2.x (beta) on C7?? (Chris Beattie) 3. Re: Openshot 2.x (beta) on C7?? (Nux!) 4. CentOS 7 and display managers (m.roth at 5-cent.us) 5. Re: CentOS 7 and display managers (Richard) 6. Re: CentOS 7 and display managers (m.roth at 5-cent.us) 7. Re: CentOS 7 and display managers (Valeri Galtsev) 8. Re: CentOS 7 and display managers (m.roth at 5-cent.us) 9. Re: CentOS 7 and display managers (Frank Cox) 10. Re: CentOS 7 and display managers (Scot P. Floess) 11. Centos and automatic update on server (Alessandro Baggi) 12. Re: Centos and automatic update on server (Alice Wonder) 13. Re: Centos and automatic update on server (m.roth at 5-cent.us) 14. Re: Centos and automatic update on server (m.roth at 5-cent.us) 15. Re: Centos and automatic update on server (David Nelson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:00:02 +0000 From: centos-announce-request at centos.org To: centos-announce at centos.org Subject: [CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5 Message-ID: <mailman.5.1457697602.15401.centos-announce at centos.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce at centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request at centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner at centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2016:0428 Moderate CentOS 6 libssh2 Security Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CESA-2016:0428 Moderate CentOS 7 libssh2 Security Update (Johnny Hughes) 3. CESA-2016:C001 ipa and glusterfs Update (Johnny Hughes) 4. CESA-2016:0430 Important CentOS 7 xerces-c Security Update (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:05:04 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> To: centos-announce at centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2016:0428 Moderate CentOS 6 libssh2 Security Update Message-ID: <20160310120504.GA20915 at n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2016:0428 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0428.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 3dd5f11872a5254b65711f88a89b4400c87329ed185af7d69d1d705f94abe13d libssh2-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.i686.rpm c00dbe2421aada7e7eb2bc87e5160014aae7673e684011783dc34cfa9dd1fcae libssh2-devel-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.i686.rpm 4be2256b4afe177140a3e87fdc0061d76b3f142ef7264aeb0f9d7a8b5b8fe3b7 libssh2-docs-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.i686.rpm x86_64: 3dd5f11872a5254b65711f88a89b4400c87329ed185af7d69d1d705f94abe13d libssh2-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.i686.rpm 729dc417c94e9efbe67f10fe848ce3571945f054bd87fec428179b58dd09bef6 libssh2-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.x86_64.rpm c00dbe2421aada7e7eb2bc87e5160014aae7673e684011783dc34cfa9dd1fcae libssh2-devel-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.i686.rpm 2004db099a3302057dbf799c09012d8d9bc1360ddf043ecef2e485f0b3b7fc86 libssh2-devel-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.x86_64.rpm d2faf5949f869b6b295c3241707e3f40a74f7c1862da57daaaca77aabce535aa libssh2-docs-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.x86_64.rpm Source: 042b1f294e214d514f5b16332956e168cc168c90a416bcfe4bbc1625636581fc libssh2-1.4.2-2.el6_7.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos at irc.freenode.net Twitter: @JohnnyCentOS ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 12:53:35 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> To: centos-announce at centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2016:0428 Moderate CentOS 7 libssh2 Security Update Message-ID: <20160310125335.GA39205 at n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2016:0428 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0428.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: 3a25e00b04b27ba59fa17adb97791702dcccb56e130eb5f51651d6fe4fe42f89 libssh2-1.4.3-10.el7_2.1.i686.rpm 1e1f93e449e678597bfdd99bed306c9bb8d5b513ffcaea13d32f5b7434900300 libssh2-1.4.3-10.el7_2.1.x86_64.rpm e76bdc2e93bbb6c4ac8705d50eef1f114ee8b8674e8436063359ac5518b10191 libssh2-devel-1.4.3-10.el7_2.1.i686.rpm b176ee6feaf699eb9ed7466309ab9a9e8d6a7cccaf2e38a15093c484dbd22548 libssh2-devel-1.4.3-10.el7_2.1.x86_64.rpm f76b77eed1cc006c0947abd138084a5808d97b311ebf0e13fbf3504248698f4e libssh2-docs-1.4.3-10.el7_2.1.noarch.rpm Source: 2181b44f7d4636eb0920582a519d1adabae94f34cb49c531a5a2b31e2ad4cf57 libssh2-1.4.3-10.el7_2.1.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos at irc.freenode.net Twitter: @JohnnyCentOS ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:33:15 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> To: centos-announce at centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2016:C001 ipa and glusterfs Update Message-ID: <20160310173315.GA44278 at n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and BugFix Advisory 2016:C001 Upstream details at : https://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=10538 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: 96963d839797a7601ef6a4922c94e7ef82b42fcb70533f9a31c43adceee2fb19 glusterfs-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm 0edd9669023af5881cd554a25f11af30c4ad1cec2ac515355a55541ca5afd444 glusterfs-api-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm 1ff4ab3dee2755555db663d522929c45949544d023f0af862e595234eb206b1e glusterfs-api-devel-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm 310cdbc4645b1dff02f7fd1ab15ca11f3d2b65a49e684a3015de264cc9055d2d glusterfs-cli-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm 7ebb8186125e4246b0ba612961872e3a6229351d15c6849c9b4d3d57587005f0 glusterfs-client-xlators-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm fb6f197ac33e79768892ec98548521cba9dbabbaf6dd577a1b9d09c461c344bc glusterfs-devel-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm c50c59c56d305efd2caaf49f9a03a934f60d6d60b9ede5fa6f9c7c41d4d0af3e glusterfs-fuse-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm 8eb112d7a006b9edcf0a6dce79abb6018909c8d9b6baa645f623f5cc4a38a837 glusterfs-libs-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm 959d24d812bb0679000f78d9e17b13476e424bb811b159eea8632d98dd2b46a3 glusterfs-rdma-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm be195e50fcbd3c190e90ecbe5690a664e01bf953ae29be709a4a6aba662736bb ipa-admintools-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.x86_64.rpm 46df2769ffc4e7439ddd6a8a140b0afcb4f45204aa717dbe4fc027dd4c5dda71 ipa-client-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.x86_64.rpm c64d59f138beb4fb8a8a3a200c7696213eebf5c07ac50bb43a7faaadd1b5b9c0 ipa-python-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.x86_64.rpm c20a31a1e4ac386e50c55839ef25b4ad1b3c261d60981da35d7c0d6a7d773ee9 ipa-server-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.x86_64.rpm 9accd7c6001f0f0c02b37eae8538e3045eaaf0f04008d5202fd4007368ba0a64 ipa-server-dns-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.x86_64.rpm 5a5a91ff922ba863eef85723f589d3c940d2e8e529683ca811016688f7bcc95a ipa-server-trust-ad-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.x86_64.rpm 2bc01ee09379a075724d311ff883fac2564ac27826a5b4ee0d4c7c09492a75c4 python-gluster-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm Source: e2ca01712e5f0c52b16a9397597ca15597bccf692881404f695f6cec8f97d925 glusterfs-3.7.1-16.0.1.el7.centos.src.rpm febdf5cf5065c93fb4ba44c02f3ac44bfe1a02b2ff5c489e3a4ec8556c99762f ipa-4.2.0-15.0.1.el7.centos.6.src.rpm NOTE: This rebuild was done to all the packages to have a DIST tag of .el7.centos. -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos at irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 17:35:16 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> To: centos-announce at centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2016:0430 Important CentOS 7 xerces-c Security Update Message-ID: <20160310173516.GA44370 at n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2016:0430 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2016-0430.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: 0102baca3c47fdb3a16d421d42be3c2e1944ef95cf0bad1b42d01e8fda4d5f83 xerces-c-3.1.1-8.el7_2.i686.rpm 06c92060b15956706630e2d2fd84d72ad71db65151b4435828980d869a7d4f11 xerces-c-3.1.1-8.el7_2.x86_64.rpm 9009f3e814779b14a0e0d6a75fbe555804f2a031e70b15309fe6734205c1c4d2 xerces-c-devel-3.1.1-8.el7_2.i686.rpm dad423ae642a29be177bb4825f71ad3fa5d8db98c4ee658f12094e30c3a88d04 xerces-c-devel-3.1.1-8.el7_2.x86_64.rpm 7fbb6adaf2adb7f3dbf34bf3f2c9e9ea4da1bd61660d84856189583511eec395 xerces-c-doc-3.1.1-8.el7_2.noarch.rpm Source: 95181791907cd7b8bc12c5814cf8e8182aec7dd51faa88224c6f1ec3f4a2336c xerces-c-3.1.1-8.el7_2.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos at irc.freenode.net Twitter: @JohnnyCentOS ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 133, Issue 5 *********************************************** ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 15:53:29 +0000 From: Chris Beattie <cbeattie at geninfo.com> To: 'CentOS mailing list' <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Openshot 2.x (beta) on C7?? Message-ID: <C56CB550F3B0CC428EFC662940A0C2E6A70634F8 at EX10MS2.geninfo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 3/11/2016 2:02 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >>> Looks like installing openshot 2.x on C7 isn't as trivial >> >> It is not trivial at all. The best way to handle this will be to find the >> required packages in Fedora and rebuild them. > > So what's the easy way? > > Switch to Ubuntu or something? 8-O Maybe Fedora, maybe Ubuntu? It's more time-consuming than hard to build a virtual machine these days, and it's not even that time-consuming. Is there a distro that already has what you want all packaged up? Run it in a VM. Take a snapshot first if you want to try something potentially system-breaking or that's going to spew files everywhere. On a single-user machine, the performance should be within a few percent of running on the bare metal. So, if you test drive some beta software and it doesn't perform well on a VM, it's probably not going to be much better running on a same-spec physical machine. NB: I administer several hundred virtual desktops, so I chugged rather than sipped the virtualization Kool-Aid. :-) -- -Chris ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:07:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Nux! <nux at li.nux.ro> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Openshot 2.x (beta) on C7?? Message-ID: <1470053539.78961.1457712444140.JavaMail.zimbra at li.nux.ro> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Ubuntu in a docker? -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Beattie" <cbeattie at geninfo.com> > To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> > Sent: Friday, 11 March, 2016 15:53:29 > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Openshot 2.x (beta) on C7?? > On 3/11/2016 2:02 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: >>>> Looks like installing openshot 2.x on C7 isn't as trivial >>> >>> It is not trivial at all. The best way to handle this will be to find the >>> required packages in Fedora and rebuild them. >> >> So what's the easy way? >> >> Switch to Ubuntu or something? 8-O > > Maybe Fedora, maybe Ubuntu? It's more time-consuming than hard to build a > virtual machine these days, and it's not even that time-consuming. Is there a > distro that already has what you want all packaged up? Run it in a VM. Take a > snapshot first if you want to try something potentially system-breaking or > that's going to spew files everywhere. On a single-user machine, the > performance should be within a few percent of running on the bare metal. So, > if you test drive some beta software and it doesn't perform well on a VM, it's > probably not going to be much better running on a same-spec physical machine. > > NB: I administer several hundred virtual desktops, so I chugged rather than > sipped the virtualization Kool-Aid. :-) > > -- > -Chris > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:33:57 -0500 From: m.roth at 5-cent.us To: "CentOS" <centos at centos.org> Subject: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <19814dd6ca3be28d95ab776fd52cbb58.squirrel at host290.hostmonster.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 <rant> Dear gnome developers - could you *possibly* be more anti-Unix? I mean, thanks *so* much for trying to turn Linux into Windows or Macs.... </rant> So, now that I've gotten that out, the KDE display manager, on the login screen, easily lets you choose window managers. Gnome utterly refuses to consider such an idea. I've just yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" on one of my user's new system... and I cannot figure out, not in googling, and there's nothing vaguely obvious anywhere, how to change to KDE from gnome. Anyone got a pointer? mark, frustrated ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 16:42:34 +0000 From: Richard <lists-centos at listmail.innovate.net> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <D655042E52FAB736EED4FCD8 at ritz.innovate.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:33:57 -0500 > From: m.roth at 5-cent.us > > So, now that I've gotten that out, the KDE display manager, on the > login screen, easily lets you choose window managers. Gnome utterly > refuses to consider such an idea. > > I've just yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" on one of my > user's new system... and I cannot figure out, not in googling, and > there's nothing vaguely obvious anywhere, how to change to KDE from > gnome. > With gnome there is a "gear wheel" on the password entry page -- on the right below the password box, next to the "sign in" label. If I select it I can switch between gnome and mate. Does KDE show there as an option? ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:46:20 -0500 From: m.roth at 5-cent.us To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <8f02f00958f1b8f56d9235b4bf7a0564.squirrel at host290.hostmonster.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Richard wrote: > > >> Date: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:33:57 -0500 >> From: m.roth at 5-cent.us >> >> So, now that I've gotten that out, the KDE display manager, on the >> login screen, easily lets you choose window managers. Gnome utterly >> refuses to consider such an idea. >> >> I've just yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" on one of my >> user's new system... and I cannot figure out, not in googling, and >> there's nothing vaguely obvious anywhere, how to change to KDE from >> gnome. > > With gnome there is a "gear wheel" on the password entry page -- on > the right below the password box, next to the "sign in" label. If I > select it I can switch between gnome and mate. Does KDE show there as > an option? Fascinating. Not in ours. It displays our issue, and in the upper left, some icons that let you deal with sound, I think, connection, maybe, and I forget what else. mark ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:52:12 -0600 (CST) From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <13369.128.135.52.6.1457715132.squirrel at cosmo.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 On Fri, March 11, 2016 10:46 am, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > Richard wrote: >> >> >>> Date: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:33:57 -0500 >>> From: m.roth at 5-cent.us >>> >>> So, now that I've gotten that out, the KDE display manager, on the >>> login screen, easily lets you choose window managers. Gnome utterly >>> refuses to consider such an idea. >>> >>> I've just yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" on one of my >>> user's new system... and I cannot figure out, not in googling, and >>> there's nothing vaguely obvious anywhere, how to change to KDE from >>> gnome. >> >> With gnome there is a "gear wheel" on the password entry page -- on >> the right below the password box, next to the "sign in" label. If I >> select it I can switch between gnome and mate. Does KDE show there as >> an option? > > Fascinating. Not in ours. It displays our issue, and in the upper left, > some icons that let you deal with sound, I think, connection, maybe, and I > forget what else. In my case the gear which when clicked of gives you drop down choices of Desktop Environments (DE) installed appears only after I click on particular user. In other words, when user has password field, he also has a gear to click on to choose DE. I hope, this helps. Valeri > > mark > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 12:05:49 -0500 From: m.roth at 5-cent.us To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <3ddbfe316694094045c2b88aa5c3f7d9.squirrel at host290.hostmonster.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, March 11, 2016 10:46 am, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Richard wrote: >>>> Date: Friday, March 11, 2016 11:33:57 -0500 >>>> From: m.roth at 5-cent.us >>>> >>>> So, now that I've gotten that out, the KDE display manager, on the >>>> login screen, easily lets you choose window managers. Gnome utterly >>>> refuses to consider such an idea. >>>> >>>> I've just yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" on one of my >>>> user's new system... and I cannot figure out, not in googling, and >>>> there's nothing vaguely obvious anywhere, how to change to KDE from >>>> gnome. >>> >>> With gnome there is a "gear wheel" on the password entry page -- on >>> the right below the password box, next to the "sign in" label. If I >>> select it I can switch between gnome and mate. Does KDE show there as >>> an option? >> >> Fascinating. Not in ours. It displays our issue, and in the upper left, >> some icons that let you deal with sound, I think, connection, maybe, and >> I forget what else. > > In my case the gear which when clicked of gives you drop down choices of > Desktop Environments (DE) installed appears only after I click on > particular user. In other words, when user has password field, he also has > a gear to click on to choose DE. > > I hope, this helps. Ah, that was it, it's not on the screen where you put in your username, it's on the password screen. On the other hand, the easier solution was to just create /etc/sysconfig/desktop, which did not exist, and add the two lines to it. Thanks, folks. mark ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:16:38 -0600 From: Frank Cox <theatre at melvilletheatre.com> To: centos at centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <20160311111638.bc745cc6c6aa1e38a7d26885 at melvilletheatre.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:52:12 -0600 (CST) Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > Fascinating. Not in ours. It displays our issue, and in the upper left, > > some icons that let you deal with sound, I think, connection, maybe, and I > > forget what else. > > In my case the gear which when clicked of gives you drop down choices of > Desktop Environments (DE) installed appears only after I click on > particular user. In other words, when user has password field, he also has > a gear to click on to choose DE. With gdm the gear only shows up if you have more than one whatever.session file in /usr/share/xsessions. gnome-classic-session and gnome-session-xsession provides this file for gnome sessions, mate-session-manager provides it for mate, and I don't know what provides it for kde. lightdm is a lot more configurable than gdm, and it's easy to use that instead: systemctl disable gdm systemctl enable lightdm systemctl isolate graphical.target Then you can easily configure /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf to do pretty much what you want it to do. I haven't yet figured out how to get rid of the blank photo man beside the password prompt, though. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 18:07:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Scot P. Floess" <sfloess at nc.rr.com> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 and display managers Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.20.1603111805520.2021 at admin.flossware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I think its in /usr/share/desktop DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE or something like that On Fri, 11 Mar 2016, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > <rant> > Dear gnome developers - could you *possibly* be more anti-Unix? I mean, > thanks *so* much for trying to turn Linux into Windows or Macs.... > </rant> > > So, now that I've gotten that out, the KDE display manager, on the login > screen, easily lets you choose window managers. Gnome utterly refuses to > consider such an idea. > > I've just yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" on one of my user's new > system... and I cannot figure out, not in googling, and there's nothing > vaguely obvious anywhere, how to change to KDE from gnome. > > Anyone got a pointer? > > mark, frustrated > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Scot P. Floess RHCT (Certificate Number 605010084735240) Chief Architect FlossWare http://sourceforge.net/projects/flossware http://flossware.sourceforge.net https://github.com/organizations/FlossWare ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 19:41:54 +0100 From: Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi at gmail.com> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> Subject: [CentOS] Centos and automatic update on server Message-ID: <CA+1R4jQzwzFomCO-sfWeFTsjXA3XNzq3cTKZYET0UY9q8Hjn7Q at mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi list, I know that there are automatic update with yum-cron but never tried. In my experiences I never did automatic backup because if update was broken my installation will be broken and I wait some time before apply update. Today seems to be that automatic update are used more than before. What do you think about automatic update? It is a good practice on a server? What is your experiences? Thanks in advance. Alessandro ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:47:26 -0800 From: Alice Wonder <alice at domblogger.net> To: centos at centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos and automatic update on server Message-ID: <56E312BE.40606 at domblogger.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed On 03/11/2016 10:41 AM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > Hi list, I know that there are automatic update with yum-cron but never > tried. > In my experiences I never did automatic backup because if update was broken > my installation will be broken and I wait some time before apply update. > Today seems to be that automatic update are used more than before. > What do you think about automatic update? It is a good practice on a > server? What is your experiences? > > Thanks in advance. > > Alessandro For me, yum-cron only downloads the updates and e-mails me to let me know they are ready. It does not actually apply them. To apply them, I ssh in and run the command "yum update" and they install fast w/o me needing to wait for the download. That lets me test everything that is critical and make sure it works after the update. ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:55:12 -0500 From: m.roth at 5-cent.us To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos and automatic update on server Message-ID: <f37b628d428c3e57349bbd146e31c2f9.squirrel at host290.hostmonster.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Alessandro Baggi wrote: > Hi list, I know that there are automatic update with yum-cron but never > tried. > In my experiences I never did automatic backup because if update was > broken > my installation will be broken and I wait some time before apply update. > Today seems to be that automatic update are used more than before. > What do you think about automatic update? It is a good practice on a > server? What is your experiences? > 1. Under *NO* *CIRCUMSTANCES* would I *ever* have that running on a production machine. That's what test boxes are for. 2. If it was my own machine at home, thanks, but I want to wake up, or come home, to a guaranteed working system. I'll update, so I can always undo. ------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 13:58:32 -0500 From: m.roth at 5-cent.us To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos and automatic update on server Message-ID: <4a4e118ea85aafda74981ea49ac92734.squirrel at host290.hostmonster.com> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Sorry, <enter> accidentally got hit before I finished. m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > Alessandro Baggi wrote: >> Hi list, I know that there are automatic update with yum-cron but never >> tried. >> In my experiences I never did automatic backup because if update was >> broken >> my installation will be broken and I wait some time before apply update. >> Today seems to be that automatic update are used more than before. >> What do you think about automatic update? It is a good practice on a >> server? What is your experiences? > > 1. Under *NO* *CIRCUMSTANCES* would I *ever* have that running on > a production machine. That's what test boxes are for. > 2. If it was my own machine at home, thanks, but I want to wake up, > or come home, to a guaranteed working system. I'll update, so > I can always undo. 3. Systems like backup servers, etc, sure. They're not critical. 4. We don't do it on users' systems unless we're *sure* that it won't break something. Finally, on systems where there is a concern that something might break, like video drivers, we put excludes in /etc/yum.conf, and disable them under controlled conditions (i.e., one of us is sitting there doing it.) mark ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 11:22:17 -0800 From: David Nelson <david at davidnelson.net> To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos and automatic update on server Message-ID: <ED7CF038-5FCC-4F1A-A956-1510729C28EC at davidnelson.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Personally I enable yum-cron on relatively simple configs without much that could break, for example a LAMP server. Especially when they are public-facing and thus have greater exposure to security threats. But I don't as often on things that are internal-only and/or have a more complex setup such as running software I had to compile from source. > On Mar 11, 2016, at 10:41, Alessandro Baggi <alessandro.baggi at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi list, I know that there are automatic update with yum-cron but never > tried. > In my experiences I never did automatic backup because if update was broken > my installation will be broken and I wait some time before apply update. > Today seems to be that automatic update are used more than before. > What do you think about automatic update? It is a good practice on a > server? What is your experiences? > > Thanks in advance. > > Alessandro > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos End of CentOS Digest, Vol 134, Issue 12 ***************************************