[CentOS] Fwd: EPEL-ANNOUNCE Re: Upcoming OwnCloud changes in EPEL

[Leon Fauster]

Am 22.05.2016 um 09:00 schrieb James Hogarth <james.hogarth at gmail.com>:
> On 22 May 2016 07:01, "John R Pierce" <pierce at hogranch.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 5/21/2016 6:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>>> 
>>> i started to look at SCL and got lost pretty quickly.   I'm not running
> OwnCloud but I've got some other php stuff thats getting increasingly
> unhappy about the stock c6 php...
>> 
>> 
>> ok, I've installed php54-1.1-5.el6.centos.alt.x86_64 ...    if I run
> `scl enable php54`, will that connect it up to my existing apache, so it
> just works, or will that blow the heck out of everything on my host, or
> something else?  I'm currently using php-5.3.3-46.el6_7.1.x86_64
>> 
> 
> The scl enable stuff just affects the command passed. It has no system wide
> level effect. This is why to get a terminal session with it in affect you
> use scl enable php54 bash ... then that session will show php 5.4 when
> running the php binary.
> 
> The documentation on how to actually use it for something like php in
> Apache is terrible, and the general blogs on it are awful overall. Things
> like doing source /opt/rh/foo/enable seem to be frequently mentioned
> despite not being what the RH docs say.
> 
> There's also a lot of confusion between the CentOS SIG SCL stuff, the
> official RHEL SCL stuff and the generic softwarecollections.org stuff.
> 
> As for mod_php from an SCL from my discussions with Remi on the topic he
> prefers to use php-fpm in that situation rather than mod_php since that
> then allows use of different php versions via passing that particular
> application to a different pool and also allows you to move away from the
> worker mpm and on top a more performant one since the thread safety issues
> are then bypassed.
> 
> Do keep in mind that the repos only have the base php packages IIRC and
> that still leaves the question of packages for all the other php libraries.
> For something like upstream php that bundles everything is not a big deal,
> but for other things it can be.
> 
> Personally I still prefer to use IUS in this use case due to the simpler
> set up and larger repository of php libraries built against it.
> 
> Perhaps I'll dive into a blog post soon™ negotiating through this stuff
> with decent examples of how to make use of the various methods, along with
> their pros and cons. The question comes up frequently enough on #centos
> that it'd be good to have a decent write up to refer to... and with a long
> time till C6 EOL and RH relying heavily on SCL for PHP5.4+ (rather than
> rebasing the php in the base distro) on it I'm sure it'll become an even
> more common question than it already is.



The retirement date for PHP54 (RH SCL) will be 
Oct 2016. Will the SCL SIG provide longer "support"?? 





> 
> Still none of the options (RH SCL, SIG SCL, SCL.org, IUS, RemiRepo) help us
> EPEL since we can only depend on what's in base or EPEL for package
> dependencies, and all efforts to get SCL approved in the Fedora Packaging
> Guidelines have been rejected over the past few years.


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