On Fri, October 28, 2016 11:50 am, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > Il 28/10/2016 16:28, Valeri Galtsev ha scritto: >> >> On Fri, October 28, 2016 2:42 am, Alessandro Baggi wrote: >>> Il 27/10/2016 19:38, Yamaban ha scritto: >>>> For my personal use I would replace that Drive asap. >>>> - There is no warranty for it anymore (time since buy) >>>> - You can't buy it new anymore (discontinued) >>>> - There are more reliable drives available. >>>> >>>> I'd go for a Samsung Evo 850, that will give you five years of >>>> warranty. >>>> >>>> But, it's your drive, you make the decissions. >>>> >>>> - Yamaban. >>> >>> Thank you for your suggestion. >>> >>> What do you think about Corsair Neutron XTi 240 MLC? >>> >> >> Amazing. He suggested you definitely reliable drive (Samsung). Reliable >> in >> my boot too. You ask his opinion about yet another Corsair. One by >> Corsair >> failed on you already. So, you should have better knowledge about >> Corsair's SSD reliability, right? >> >> Sorry to sound sour, it just amuses me how people keep buying things >> made >> by the same company whose products already failed on them. This is what >> creates the problem: keeps companies manufacturing bad hardware exist. >> >> Valeri >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Valeri Galtsev >> Sr System Administrator >> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics >> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics >> University of Chicago >> Phone: 773-702-4247 >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > Sorry, but my 2 ssds corsair does not report error and works fine, with > good performances and without realloc. These disks are not failed. Yes, > they are failing but these are old driver and this is a desktop under > raid. Consider that these drive are 5 years old, for me this is not bad > ssd brand, there are best brand but corsair is not too bad. > > Now, Yamaban had suggested samsung because this is the best choice. This > does not exclude that there are other products (that can be less > reliable and less performant at lower cost) that for my case are good > enough. Corsair neutron has also 5 years of warrenty. > > > Sorry to sound sour, it just amuses me how people keep buying things > made > > by the same company whose products already failed on them. This is what > > creates the problem: keeps companies manufacturing bad hardware exist. > > > > If you are AMD user and your old AMD cpu died, You think that AMD must > burn due to a cpu failure? Great. > I'm with you in the case where you buy a disk and after 3/6 months it > fails (and this can happen also with very good brand) and this is not > the case. Backblaze must burn all brand because many disks fails.... > > Now about bad hardware manufacturing companies it's another problem. > These companies point to low cost consumer, due the fact that not anyone > can get the best hardware due to money. An example? Corsair LE 480 GB > (100$) vs Samsung SSD Serie 850 Pro 512GB (260$). 850 Pro is better, > but more expensive, and Corsair LE has 3 year of warrenty. Maybe an user > can spend his money for a vga or a better cpu. These bad companies > permit some users to get hw for less money without a great expecation > for cheapest use case and their ability to pay. Yes, indeed, I'm with you on that. Market is driven by low budget (ignorant - not to offend, but to just qualify in insight into hardware) consumer. Which indeed leads to "fake raid" chips (aka "software" raid), and many other bad things. I sometimes have to deal with what students have ordered themselves. Hence excessive attitude. As they order before they hear from me: "pricegrabber is an enemy in choosing reliable hardware". Then all leads to downtime, someone has to spend time on repairing the darn thing. Whereas, if one pays mere 15% more and gets good hardware, future losses (including human time which is very expensive) can be avoided. Alas, SSD difference in hand is larger that 15%, hence probably nobody will dare to help with advice. If there is good advice that is. I for one did go with Samsung SSD... Valeri > > Than if these cheap companies must not exist, the user must not use a > new technology (at lower cost)? The IT gap. > > Sorry, my (m.)2 cents. > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++