[CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

Mon Apr 10 13:51:35 UTC 2017
Leroy Tennison <leroy at datavoiceint.com>

Like you, I have been looking for alternatives to Linux due to systemd, SELinux, desktop environments gone way off course, etc.  What can and can't be replaced with FreeBSD or other alternatives (and why)?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>
To: "centos" <centos at centos.org>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 8:38:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

On Mon, April 10, 2017 7:29 am, Steve Clark wrote:
> On 04/09/2017 04:30 AM, J Martin Rushton wrote:
>> On 09/04/17 05:39, Anthony K wrote:
>>> According to "Arthur Schopenhauer":
>>> "All truth passes through three stages.
>>>     First, it is ridiculed.
>>>     Second, it is violently opposed.
>>>     Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
>> All ideas, true or false, follow those stages, but one hopes that the
>> false ones are eventually derided and toppled.
>>> I must admit that I skipped through the first and second stages - I
>>> never found creating init scripts a joy and instead opted to write my
>>> own scripts that I launched via inittab.  As such, I welcomed the
>>> simplicity systemd's service files without fuss.
>>> So, at which stage are you in w/ regards to adopting systemd?  Are you
>>> still ridiculing it, violently opposed to it, or have you mellowed to
>>> it?
>> Accepting it as a fait accompli.  It makes life much harder for no
>> obvious gain, but short of creating one's own distro we seem to be stuck
>> with it.  To answer your question, a combination of proposition 1 and
>> the first part of proposition 3.
>> For those of us with (in my case) over 30 years in the industry, reading
>> init scripts is trivial and at least we can see what is going on and fix
>> problems quickly.  Some vague, poorly documented, data file which is
>> interpreted by a black box is the sort of joy one expects from the
>> murkier regions of Redmond not the sunnier climes of Carolina.

The same here. Could repeat that word for word. I fled what I could to
FreeBSD, but in that process systemd was just the last drop that confirmed
that my earlier decision to abandon Linux to the extent I can was right.
Whatever has to stay Linux sucks ... more time for any problem than it
used to.


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