[CentOS] humor (was Re: OT: systemd Poll)

Wed Apr 12 22:54:12 UTC 2017
Dave Stevens <geek at uniserve.com>

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:59:41 -0500 (CDT)
"Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:

> On Wed, April 12, 2017 2:39 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Andrew Holway
> > <andrew.holway at gmail.com> wrote:  
> >>>
> >>> When Windows 2000 came out some called it "bloated pig". Some 6
> >>> years down
> >>> the road Linux started catching up ;-) Then we stopped laughing
> >>> about Windows.
> >>>  
> >>
> >> All in the name of progress..  
> >
> >       I have been told that Windows developers were taught not to
> > optimize their code for memory/cpu/etc since those could be solved
> > by throwing more hardware at it. Instead they should make clean
> > readable code. Not claiming that is exclusive to Windows or the
> > clean readable part is followed...
> >  
> Continuing in the same spirit. Way back SELinux (before it made it
> into main stream kernel) had a competitor. LIDS. De-ciphers as Linux
> Intrusion Detection System (but name is confusing). Creature of
> Purdue University Computer science department. Basically LISD was a
> kernel patch that upon end of boot sequence demotes root account to
> privileges of user nobody. This makes system impregnable on the fly
> (but real pain to administer - any change can only be done as: shut
> down, change, boot). I was so impressed, I still remember about it.
> Never came to using it though. If it did, it might give big pain to
> NSA and friends. But SELinux won, and LIDS never made it into main
> stream kernel - to my regret. As far as SELinux is concerned, several
> people still think that several (how many?) thousands of extra code
> in the kernel may bring more harm than do good. Anyway, the last IMHO
> is where "tastes differ".
> Valeri

the wikipedia confirms my memory that SELinux is a child of the NSA.
Is anyone astonished that this allowed them to hack into Linux?


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