On Mon, April 10, 2017 7:29 am, Steve Clark wrote: > On 04/09/2017 04:30 AM, J Martin Rushton wrote: >> On 09/04/17 05:39, Anthony K wrote: >>> According to "Arthur Schopenhauer": >>> >>> "All truth passes through three stages. >>> First, it is ridiculed. >>> Second, it is violently opposed. >>> Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." >> All ideas, true or false, follow those stages, but one hopes that the >> false ones are eventually derided and toppled. >> >> >>> I must admit that I skipped through the first and second stages - I >>> never found creating init scripts a joy and instead opted to write my >>> own scripts that I launched via inittab. As such, I welcomed the >>> simplicity systemd's service files without fuss. >>> >>> So, at which stage are you in w/ regards to adopting systemd? Are you >>> still ridiculing it, violently opposed to it, or have you mellowed to >>> it? >>> >> Accepting it as a fait accompli. It makes life much harder for no >> obvious gain, but short of creating one's own distro we seem to be stuck >> with it. To answer your question, a combination of proposition 1 and >> the first part of proposition 3. >> >> For those of us with (in my case) over 30 years in the industry, reading >> init scripts is trivial and at least we can see what is going on and fix >> problems quickly. Some vague, poorly documented, data file which is >> interpreted by a black box is the sort of joy one expects from the >> murkier regions of Redmond not the sunnier climes of Carolina. >> The same here. Could repeat that word for word. I fled what I could to FreeBSD, but in that process systemd was just the last drop that confirmed that my earlier decision to abandon Linux to the extent I can was right. Whatever has to stay Linux sucks ... more time for any problem than it used to. Valeri >> > +1 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > -- > Stephen Clark > *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* > Director of Technology > Phone: 813-579-3200 > Fax: 813-882-0209 > Email: steve.clark at netwolves.com > http://www.netwolves.com > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++