Hello Mike, On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 17:19:30 -0400 "Mike McCarthy, W1NR" <sysop at w1nr.net> wrote: > On 08/02/2017 10:55 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On 07/27/2017 04:16 PM, wwp wrote: > >> ... > >> It is as simple as unknown hardware at boot up, it's a well known issue > >> w/ *Lake hardware (modern hardware) that kernel 3.x cannot handle. > >> CentOS7 has a kernel which is simply not modern, unable to handle lots > >> of computers sold currently. > >> > >> That said, there might be a way to boot, but nothing trivial and > >> nothing at all I could find on the Internet, everytime it's kernel > >> 4.3/4.10 minimum required. > > ... > > > > While I know that Johnny has provided the experimental kernel (thanks, > > Johnny) I would like to just briefly address this idea that the C7 > > kernel is 'obviously' not going to work because 'is 3.x and must have > > 4.x.' > > > > In EL-land, kernel versions are effectively meaningless, since > > features, hardware support, bugfixes, security fixes, etc are > > back-ported into the 'old and not modern' 3.10 kernel (for EL7) by > > competent developers at Red Hat. An EL 3.10 kernel, such as the > > current 3.10.0-514.26.2.el7.x86_64 one, may have hardware support > > back-ported from a 4.x kernel that doesn't exist in the vanilla > > kernel.org kernel (I'm almost certain it does, but I'm not going to > > take the time to get details). > > > > So it is very possible that full hardware support for your hardware > > could show up in a 3.10 kernel (in fact, I would expect that this > > would happen, but it might not happen quickly). As you found out, > > experimental kernels and non-distribution kernels can freak out > > software packages, such as VMware Workstation, that only work with > > certain kernels and are expecting a particular kernel version and ABI > > for EL7. I've tried out a few non-standard kernels before, and if you > > rely on packages that depend upon the distribution default kernel > > version (as I do with kmod-nvidia from ELrepo!) that breakage can be > > swift, and can derail you in a hurry, causing you to go down a rabbit > > hole very quickly. So be prepared and keep your eyes open for these > > issues. > > > > In some circles, the back-porting of features into old kernels is > > controversial; but that is a business decision made as part of the EL > > development and is not likely to change any time soon. YMMV. > > _______________________________________________ > > I missed some of the responses but have you tried kernel-ml for RHEL 7 > yet? See http://elrepo.org/tiki/kernel-ml In that time, no, but since then, yes. I replied some detail elsewhere to this thread. More to come! Regards, -- wwp -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20170804/67e4fc61/attachment-0005.sig>