On Wed, June 7, 2017 2:02 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > On 6/7/2017 11:28 AM, Always Learning wrote: >>> In the case of CentOS-7 .. you don't need to create a whole new >>> distro, you can just petition the CentOS Project Board to create a >>> Special Interest Group to get access to CentOS Project controlled >>> resources to build packages (and get them rolled into our mirrors, >>> etc.) to use something other than systemd. >> Excellent idea. I'll gladly sign any such petition:-) > > > but will you contribute to building the non-systemd packages, and > working out how to retrofit old sysV init back into everything via > patches, etc ? every RPM that interacts with systemd will need to be > 'fixed' to do it the old way, with init.d scripts. repositories like > postgres, EPEL, etc won't work, either, as their C7 packaged daemons are > all configured to use systemd. I agree, John. We respect CentOS for what it is (blatantly said, being RHEL binary replica, I know it is more...). Debian/devuan is a core system developers team split. You want similar core system developers split here - the place is RedHat, not CentOS and this definitely will not happen (note the difference between debian.org and redhat.com). So, the only productive thing about systemd on CentOS list will be to drop all battles, accept systemd as our reality, and keep all posts restricted to pure technical questions/answers. Just my $0.02 Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++