[CentOS] Missing rpms - Re: What is in a yum group

Thu May 25 16:29:44 UTC 2017
Bowie Bailey <Bowie_Bailey at BUC.com>

On 5/25/2017 12:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 05/25/2017 11:22 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>> On 5/25/2017 10:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> On 05/25/2017 09:32 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
>>>>> Am 25.05.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Robert Moskowitz 
>>>>> <rgm at htt-consult.com>:
>>>>> Thanks.  I followed this to: 
>>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/
>>>>> And could not find any of the following:
>>>>> No package xfce-utils available.
>>>>> No package NetworkManager-gnome available.
>>>>> No package leafpad available.
>>>>> No package xfce4-icon-theme available.
>>>>> Package xfce4-mixer is obsoleted by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, 
>>>>> trying to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.2.4-4.el7.x86_64 instead
>>>>> No package xfwm4-theme-nodoka available.
>>>>> So it would appear that an Xfce desktop install is 'broken' for 
>>>>> some level of brokeness for Centos7.
>>>>> But interestingly, NetworkManager-gnome is not used by gnome. It 
>>>>> has a bunch of other NetworkManager rpms.  I also checked Fedora 
>>>>> 21 and 24 and their Xfce desktop does not list 
>>>>> NetworkManager-gnome when I do a group info xfce.  So there is 
>>>>> something wrong in the packaging of the xfce group in Centos7-x64 
>>>>> that Scott provided me...
>>>> Xfce is provided by EPEL:
>>>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-May/164858.html
>>> I missed that your two emails pointed to different urls. Thanks. But...
>>> Enabling epel does not provide an Xfce group.
>>> Enabling epel does not give me the missing rpms.  It does provide 
>>> both mixer and pulseaudio-plugin, but not the others.
>>> So Xfce is still broken at some level of brokeness with C7.
>> On my rather basic C7 system with epel enabled, I don't see any 
>> problems.
>>     # yum groupinstall "Xfce"
>>     ...
>>     Install  20 Packages (+193 Dependent packages)
>> It did not give any errors and the install list does not mention any 
>> of the missing packages that you list above.  It works fine with C7.  
>> There must be some difference with your system.
> The group is not on my system.  I am using ClearOS' version of the 
> Centos repos, so not necessarily a surprise.  And all my other servers 
> are Centos7-armv7hl, also with no Xfce group.  But the armv7hl repos 
> have a number of build challenges that we have had to work around...
> Can you please run:
> yum group info Xfce
> and send me the output?

Here is what the group info gives me:

Group: Xfce
  Group-Id: xfce-desktop
  Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low 
end machines.
  Mandatory Packages:
  Default Packages:
  Optional Packages:
  Conditional Packages:

I don't know why that list is different from what it actually tries to 
install.  When I try to install it, I get this:

Installing for group install "Xfce":
  Thunar x86_64            1.6.11-1.el7 epel               1.4 M
  gdm x86_64            1:3.14.2-20.el7_3 updates            719 k
  openssh-askpass x86_64            6.6.1p1-35.el7_3 updates             
74 k
  orage x86_64            4.12.1-3.el7 epel               1.8 M
  polkit-gnome x86_64            0.105-6.el7 epel                82 k
  thunar-archive-plugin x86_64            0.3.1-6.el7 
epel                69 k
  thunar-volman x86_64            0.8.1-2.el7 epel               175 k
  tumbler x86_64            0.1.31-2.el7 epel               195 k
  xfce4-appfinder x86_64            4.12.0-4.el7 epel               194 k
  xfce4-panel x86_64            4.12.0-4.el7 epel               820 k
  xfce4-power-manager x86_64            1.6.0-2.el7 epel               769 k
  xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin x86_64            0.2.5-1.el7 
epel                71 k
  xfce4-session x86_64            4.12.1-8.el7 epel               484 k
  xfce4-session-engines x86_64            4.12.1-8.el7 
epel               315 k
  xfce4-settings x86_64            4.12.0-7.el7 epel               658 k
  xfce4-terminal x86_64            0.6.3-4.el7 epel               484 k
  xfconf x86_64            4.12.0-3.el7 epel               199 k
  xfdesktop x86_64            4.12.3-2.el7 epel               1.0 M
  xfwm4 x86_64            4.12.3-2.el7 epel               627 k
  pinentry-gtk x86_64            0.8.1-17.el7 base                51 k

Plus 193 dependencies.  I do not have any xfce packages installed already.