[CentOS] Missing rpms - Re: What is in a yum group

Thu May 25 19:43:10 UTC 2017

On 05/25/2017 12:29 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
> On 5/25/2017 12:07 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 05/25/2017 11:22 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote:
>>> On 5/25/2017 10:04 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/25/2017 09:32 AM, Leon Fauster wrote:
>>>>>> Am 25.05.2017 um 15:27 schrieb Robert Moskowitz 
>>>>>> <rgm at htt-consult.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.  I followed this to: 
>>>>>> http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And could not find any of the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No package xfce-utils available.
>>>>>> No package NetworkManager-gnome available.
>>>>>> No package leafpad available.
>>>>>> No package xfce4-icon-theme available.
>>>>>> Package xfce4-mixer is obsoleted by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin, 
>>>>>> trying to install xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin-0.2.4-4.el7.x86_64 instead
>>>>>> No package xfwm4-theme-nodoka available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it would appear that an Xfce desktop install is 'broken' for 
>>>>>> some level of brokeness for Centos7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But interestingly, NetworkManager-gnome is not used by gnome. It 
>>>>>> has a bunch of other NetworkManager rpms.  I also checked Fedora 
>>>>>> 21 and 24 and their Xfce desktop does not list 
>>>>>> NetworkManager-gnome when I do a group info xfce.  So there is 
>>>>>> something wrong in the packaging of the xfce group in Centos7-x64 
>>>>>> that Scott provided me...
>>>>>
>>>>> Xfce is provided by EPEL:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2017-May/164858.html
>>>>
>>>> I missed that your two emails pointed to different urls. Thanks. 
>>>> But...
>>>>
>>>> Enabling epel does not provide an Xfce group.
>>>> Enabling epel does not give me the missing rpms.  It does provide 
>>>> both mixer and pulseaudio-plugin, but not the others.
>>>>
>>>> So Xfce is still broken at some level of brokeness with C7.
>>>
>>> On my rather basic C7 system with epel enabled, I don't see any 
>>> problems.
>>>
>>>     # yum groupinstall "Xfce"
>>>     ...
>>>     Install  20 Packages (+193 Dependent packages)
>>>
>>> It did not give any errors and the install list does not mention any 
>>> of the missing packages that you list above.  It works fine with 
>>> C7.  There must be some difference with your system.
>>>
>> The group is not on my system.  I am using ClearOS' version of the 
>> Centos repos, so not necessarily a surprise.  And all my other 
>> servers are Centos7-armv7hl, also with no Xfce group.  But the 
>> armv7hl repos have a number of build challenges that we have had to 
>> work around...
>>
>> Can you please run:
>>
>> yum group info Xfce
>>
>> and send me the output?
>
> Here is what the group info gives me:
>
> Group: Xfce
>  Group-Id: xfce-desktop
>  Description: A lightweight desktop environment that works well on low 
> end machines.
>  Mandatory Packages:
>    +Thunar
>    +xfce-utils
>    +xfce4-panel
>    +xfce4-session
>    +xfce4-settings
>    +xfconf
>    +xfdesktop
>    +xfwm4
>  Default Packages:
>    +NetworkManager-gnome
>    +gdm
>    +leafpad
>    +openssh-askpass
>    +orage
>    +polkit-gnome
>    +thunar-archive-plugin
>    +thunar-volman
>    +tumbler
>    +xfce4-appfinder
>    +xfce4-icon-theme
>    +xfce4-power-manager
>    +xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
>    +xfce4-session-engines
>    +xfce4-terminal
>    +xfwm4-theme-nodoka
>  Optional Packages:
>    xfwm4-themes
>  Conditional Packages:
>    +pinentry-gtk
>
> I don't know why that list is different from what it actually tries to 
> install.  When I try to install it, I get this:
>
> Installing for group install "Xfce":
>  Thunar x86_64            1.6.11-1.el7 epel               1.4 M
>  gdm x86_64            1:3.14.2-20.el7_3 updates            719 k
>  openssh-askpass x86_64            6.6.1p1-35.el7_3 
> updates             74 k
>  orage x86_64            4.12.1-3.el7 epel               1.8 M
>  polkit-gnome x86_64            0.105-6.el7 epel                82 k
>  thunar-archive-plugin x86_64            0.3.1-6.el7 
> epel                69 k
>  thunar-volman x86_64            0.8.1-2.el7 epel 175 k
>  tumbler x86_64            0.1.31-2.el7 epel               195 k
>  xfce4-appfinder x86_64            4.12.0-4.el7 epel 194 k
>  xfce4-panel x86_64            4.12.0-4.el7 epel               820 k
>  xfce4-power-manager x86_64            1.6.0-2.el7 epel               
> 769 k
>  xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin x86_64            0.2.5-1.el7 
> epel                71 k
>  xfce4-session x86_64            4.12.1-8.el7 epel 484 k
>  xfce4-session-engines x86_64            4.12.1-8.el7 
> epel               315 k
>  xfce4-settings x86_64            4.12.0-7.el7 epel 658 k
>  xfce4-terminal x86_64            0.6.3-4.el7 epel 484 k
>  xfconf x86_64            4.12.0-3.el7 epel               199 k
>  xfdesktop x86_64            4.12.3-2.el7 epel               1.0 M
>  xfwm4 x86_64            4.12.3-2.el7 epel               627 k
> Installing:
>  pinentry-gtk x86_64            0.8.1-17.el7 base 51 k
>
> Plus 193 dependencies.  I do not have any xfce packages installed 
> already.
>
Note that you do not have xfce-utils or leafpad.

Do you have themes?  What is your background.

I have actually gotten Xfce working.  Kindof.  I am into Xfce via 
vncserver.  It pretty much looks like Xfce on my Fedora systems. 
Backleveled a bit of course.  No sensor applet to show the cpu temp for 
example.

But no background, other than black.

Oh, and no NetworkManager on the tray.

I am going to install geany for the editor.  I use geany a lot for 
editing xml and html files so am familiar with it.  It is just a bit 
much for editing a simple text file.

Anyway, it is possible to get Xfce running on Centos7, but it is missing 
some rpms.