On 8 March 2017 at 11:19, James Hogarth <james.hogarth at gmail.com> wrote: > On 8 March 2017 at 11:15, Alice Wonder <alice at domblogger.net> wrote: >> On 03/08/2017 01:57 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: >>> >>> >>>> The recommended configuration for EL7 is to use NetworkManager unless >>>> you have a very specific edge case preventing you from doing so: >>>> >>> The truth is a lot of us run servers that don't need to have their >>> network "managed" by Networkmanager. >>> >> >> My experience was very difficult going to 7.2 to 7.3 because of a change in >> the behavior of NetworkManager with respect to IPv6 but once I had it >> figured out (thanks to people on this list) it worked out quite well and I >> kept NetworkManager. >> >> But I certainly understand why some don't want to do that. > > > That's fine Alice (and I remember your issue well with the minimally > documented change to stable-privacy by default for new systems ... > argh I still need to write up a blog article about that) but in this > case the person concerned isn't even using the network service, which > if legacy and semi-deprecated is still supported, but just doing a > ridiculous and unsupportable mini script (I'm guessing from rc.local?) > which doesn't handle pretty much any actual networking issue that may > come up - eg failed/delayed interface. Apologies for the slight necro but I felt this thread was the closest linked to the topic, and since it was of interest to Alice at the time may be of interest to others too. I've just finished up and published my NetworkManager rebased article covering the changes (focusing on behavioural ones): https://www.hogarthuk.com/?q=node/18 I do like the idea of my wifi mac being able to be set to random by default now ... I may well enable that as a default (to handle trivially the use case of unknown public wifi) and toggle it to preserve or stable for my known standard connections. The master-slave style connections (whether vlan, bond, team or bridge) are much easier to deal with now as well at the command line, something I'm very happy to see.