On 13/10/2017 18:45, Lamar Owen wrote: Hi Lamar, [snip] I do appreciate your humour :) > Anyway, a form of pseudo-persistence that meets the OP's needs is > already supported directly by systemd-tmpfiles, which is a part of the > core systemd package and non-optional, so your vehement disagreement is > moot, sorry. The round hole already has a square-peg adapter, at least > in CentOS 7. Packagers just need to select the proper 'adapter' for > systemd-tmpfiles; the adaptation is not (and should not be, in my > opinion) automatic. systemd-tmpfiles is not a hack, nor is it an adaptor. It's a core part of systemd, and is meant to be used as has been described many times in this thread. What I am very much against are the various suggestions to save /var/run on shutdown and restore it, or other pseudo packages to do similar stuff. None of that is needed. systemd-tmpfiles is the correct and only way to create files and directories in /var/run (and any other place) as needed.