On 10/04/2017 08:46 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > On Wednesday 04 October 2017 13:39:30 Mark Haney wrote: >> I'll end this by saying, I hope the production servers you have don't >> provide critical services that could jeopardize the lives of people. >> I'd ask who you work for, to make sure I avoid them at all costs, but >> I'm not sure I'd be told. > The company I work for, and the livelihood of the hundreds of employees depend > on my servers. In the 30 years I've been in the industry, I've never had > problems as you've described > _______________________________________________ In 30 years you've obviously learned nothing about Unix/Linux. I'd be embarrassed to claim that length of IT service and do something as catastrophically stupid as what you're doing now. Just because it 'hasn't been a problem' doesn't mean it won't. Seriously, if it were me, I'd either retire or hire someone better than you with production servers. You'd think, with your supposed experience, you wouldn't use the 'well it's never happened before' as a viable reason for doing something. That's ignorant, immature and far more dangerous for your organization than I would be happy with as a CEO or Manager. That attitude is never excusable. This conversation is over. You refuse to listen to literally EVERYONE ELSE ON THE LIST and therefore not worth anyone else's time trying to help you. (Especially mine.) I showed my daughter this thread, she's a freshman in the Honors College of Engineering at Virginia Tech majoring in Math and CpE, has been using linux since she was old enough to sit at a keyboard and even she was appalled. If that doesn't tell you something, nothing will. Do us all a favor and don't post to the list unless you are willing to listen to rational human beings. -- Mark Haney Network Engineer at NeoNova 919-460-3330 option 1 mark.haney at neonova.net www.neonova.net