I see that epel has a bunch of lxqt packages,, but there doesn't seem to be a lxqt group. if I try to install lxqt-* it of course wants to install a whole shipload of stuff alongside it. does anyone here happen to know the correct incantation for getting lxqt onto a C7 system without unnecessary crap? thanks in advance! Fredex -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- "For him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy--to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen." ----------------------------- Jude 1:24,25 (niv) -----------------------------