On 5/12/18 4:17 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >> On 4/12/18 9:06 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: >>> Sorry for top post, my android BlueMail will not let me insert at the >>> bottom. >>> >>> I have found that tracker-extract seems to trigger a segfault. I note >>> this is not updated in CR, but comes from base. Removal of tracker seems >>> too harsh as it has dependant modules like brasero, evince, grilo, >>> nautilus and totem. >>> Maybe there is an obscure relationship in tracker that need attention. >>> Stumpped. >>> >>> Sent from BlueMail >>> >>> On 03 Dec 2018, 11:28 PM, at 11:28 PM, Fabian Arrotin >>> <arrfab at centos.org> wrote: >>>> On 03/12/2018 11:14, John Hodrien wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018, Simon Matter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Le 03/12/2018 à 06:25, Rob Kampen a écrit : >>>>>>>> I enabled the CR repo and did the yum update. Some 800+ rpms were >>>>>>>> offered and all seemed to resolve depenancies OK, so yes it was >>>>>>>> started. The updates completed and all looked good, until the >>>> reboot. >>>>>>> I got a similar disaster here. I guess the lesson to be learned is >>>> that >>>>>>> CR is nice to have on servers, but don't use it on desktops. >>>>>> My question is what will change with the final release of 7.6? I >>>> thought >>>>>> the CR repo usually holds all updates with the exception of >>>>>> centos-release, or are there more updates to come? I had the >>>> impression >>>>>> that in the past, the final release brought only cosmetic changes >>>> with >>>>>> the >>>>>> centos-release being updated. >>>>> I've seen zero problems on Desktops I've installed CR on. >>>>> >>>>> If CR has issues, as you say you'd expect 7.6 to have problems. If >>>>> things are >>>>> failing with CR updates, you really want to investigate what's going >>>> on. >>>>> jh >>>> +1 as 7.6.1810 is exactly 7.5.1804+updates+CR so only missing packages >>>> are centos-release/anaconda and install tree/media .. >>>> >>>> So if there are issues with CR, using the list and bugs.centos.org >>>> would >>>> be good. >>>> BTW : the goal of CR is exactly to find those issues earlier and then >>>> write Release Notes with workarounds/warnings >> So in an effort to narrow down the problem I also have an old Samsung >> laptop - i5 with an nvidia card - all up-to-date 7.5 - I thought I would >> try a more conservative upgrade approach. >> >> first updated to the CR kernel with yum upgrade kernel* >> >> then after successful reboot did an update to gdm* and gnome* >> >> another reboot and all is well >> >> then update of xorg* (only 20 files) >> >> Now it will not boot - keyboard is non responsive so cannot even do a >> Ctrl Alt F2 to access a shell. Old kernel is also non boot. Left this >> machine for now and back to my main desktop workstation. >> >> No idea if this xorg problem relates to my original workstation - so on >> that machine I did a downgrade of xorg* - seemed to complete ok, but on >> reboot and login - still the same problem. >> >> As the only clue in the logs is the libc segfault I did a downgrade of >> glibc - this too seemed to work but no change to the system - gnome >> crashes after 5 - 10 seconds. >> >> Wasted far too much time on this, no idea what to do now so I have done >> a fresh 7.5 install and all works again - just need to install all the >> additional stuff I use each day, but at least I have a desktop that >> functions. >> >> I will wait until 7.6 is officially released, watch the list for a week >> or two and then with much fear and trepidation give it a go. <sad face> >> >> As a long time user of CentOS (well over a decade - I started with 5.x >> workstations, then had a couple of 6.x, and used two 7.x machines, not >> counting my servers), I must observe that the core server stuff "just >> works" e.g. mail, mysql / mariadb, postfix, dovecot, apache, php. Even >> the migration to libreoffice was okay. >> >> The major version upgrades each gave an all over better desktop >> experience. What has also happened however is that some of the 7.x >> upgrades have been difficult to deal with - one of the recent firefox >> updates lost all my local password databases which I do not back up to >> the cloud for obvious reasons. Unable to resolve the instability after >> many hours of testing and trialing combinations, I have left firefox and >> moved to vivaldi - we'll see how that works. As upstream seems to >> include more bleeding edge versions of major desktop utilities such as >> firefox, stability has been compromised. >> >> Now with this latest CR update, I have no idea if it is gnome, gdm, xorg >> or some other component, but to have two quite differently configured >> machines both loose their desktops, I am unhappy. The use of roll back >> of over 800 files just didn't pass the transaction test thus that too >> was futile. >> >> I thought the approach I used with my laptop today was sufficiently >> cautious, yet it caught me and I am still trying to work out what to do >> next. >> >> As always, happy to entertain ideas and suggestions. My main workstation >> however is now safely working at a clean install of 7.5, thus cannot do >> further tests there, life must go on, four days of down time is far too >> much. >> >> Also let me give a heartfelt thanks to the hard working CentOS team, I >> see the more and more difficult task you need to navigate with each >> major update, you do an outstanding task, and I am most grateful! > The big question remains, what did you install which is not part of the > base CentOS distribution? You mentioned vivaldi browser, Nvidia stuff, > what else did you install from EPEL or other sources? I mean, is it > possible in your case that something causes problems now which is not part > of CentOS? It is possible - I have now got a new clean install of 7.5 and am slowly making that workable, thus unable to do further testing until I do the 7.6 upgrade, which I will hold off until Red Hat Bugzilla – Bug 1650634 is resolved - this looks like the exact issue my laptop has stumbled in to. Will need to use a rescue USB to try the xorg downgrade on that as it also crashes the keyboard. > > Regards, > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos