[CentOS] C7, encryption, and clevis

Valeri Galtsev galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu
Fri Jun 8 20:42:11 UTC 2018



On 06/08/18 15:26, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On 06/08/18 13:48, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>>> Frank Cox wrote:
>>>>>> so if it would work, replace shortname with short and short1?
>>>>
>>>> With all of this hokey-pokey surrounding licensing and mac addresses, I
>>>> wonder if this outfit is actually still in compliance with the terms of
>>>> their license for this software, whatever it may be?
>>>>
>>>> If the software licensed to run only on Machine X and Machine X has now
>>>> been junked and replace by Machine Y,  then isn't the solution to
>>>> obtain a license for the software for Machine Y or be out-of compliance
>>>> regardless of the technical ability to spoof whatever it's looking for?
>>
>> Frank, I 100% agree with you. The only case with spoofed MAC address and
>> license that may have chance to stand in court will be if all below are
>> true:
>>
>> 1. the company issued perpetual license.
>> 2. the company does not exist
>> 3. the original hardware died (be it motherboard whose embedded NIC
>> license was locked to or network card)
>> 4. single replacement machine (meeting requirements of license;
>> sometimes it is number of CPUs/cores, memory, etc) is used to replace it
>> [imminently needing to spoof MAC address]
>> 5. fair effort was made to find and notify about the above whoever
>> inherited rights of dissolved company
>>
>> But I bet the lawyer can find flaws in what I tried to say.
> 
> Both users' old workstations were at least 6 years old, maybe more. They
> got surplused (I'm the one who did that). So it's only on the two machines
> that the licenses were for. But.... I assume it was very expensive when
> they bought it.
>>
>> On a similar note: one of the companies whose software scientists here
>> were using a lot (IDL is a product) changed hand several times, and last
>> owner changed licensing terms and stopped signing perpetual licenses.
>> With perpetual license you were able to keep upgrading software during
>> support period, usually 1 year, and keep using last version later
>> forever only you are locked to that older version. They stopped signing
>> perpetual licenses, and made it "software for rent" with 1 year rent
>> term. When that happened I recommended all our people to avoid using IDL
>> in new projects (python was my recommendation as fair replacement - just
>> what I know, not that I consider it better than other alternatives). As
>> a programmer (former I should say, as I don't put my dirty hands into
>> code lately, almost not) I wouldn't invest my time into mastering
>> something that I not necessarily will have access to at some point in a
>> future...
> 
> Yeah. We have a number of folks here using R, and fewer still using Matlab.

Sounds like your former matlab users are happy with R (bad name, BTW, 
try to search...). Thanks, I will know now what to mention as 
alternative if it will be about matlab!

Valeri

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