On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : >> Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike >> gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. > > My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At > first, I hated it with a passion. Then I saw everyone else seemed to use > it. So I started to read the docs and experiment a little bit. And now > I'm using it on a daily basis, and to my bewilderment, I've grown to > like it. What really did me in when I was trying to like it, the scroll bars were gone and I was told they could be put back in place with configuration. So I tried to find the configuration option and couldn't find it. Then I was told that I had to hand-code CSS to get them back. I installed MATE the very next day. I did briefly try it again a few month ago and I just can't figure it out. It's like it is trying to be a tablet OS or something, but I'm not using a touchscreen, I'm using a mouse and keyboard.