On 11/20/18 8:48 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 11/18/2018 09:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: >> Le 18/11/2018 à 15:30, Lamar Owen a écrit : >>> I did the update from CR, and have some pretty serious issues. ... >> Since Red Hat decided to roll in some major GNOME updates between >> minor releases, I'm seriously beginning to wonder if I won't be >> better off using Fedora on desktops. > ... There are new gnome-session and gdm updates that I am getting > ready to push to CR .. gnome-session-3.28.1-6.el7.src.rpm and > gdm-3.28.2-10.el7.src.rpm .. no idea what the actually do yet, but you > can see if they fix any of your issues by looking at the upstream > errata, etc. Well, reporting back, and I'm not 100% sure what caused my problem. I have used several repos since I installed the box two years ago, and there was quite a bit of clutter. I'm leaning towards my use of xscreensaver (I like the 'flurry' screensaver) as the likely culprit, but I had enough clutter that it's not really practical (not to mention that I really can't take the time) to fully troubleshoot and be close to 100% sure. Since I did have some clutter to deal with, and the drives (250GB mSATA SSD and 1TB HGST 7K1000) are two years old at this point, I decided it was time to refresh my installation. So I got a good deal on a Samsung 860 EVO 500GB mSATA and another HGST 7K1000 (one of the best 2.5 inch drives out there), and waited until they came in to do a complete reinstall, and am rsyncing files over from the older 1TB drive as needed. The Dell Precision M6700 laptop has two 2.5 inch bays plus the mSATA slot, so I downloaded the 1804 DVD iso (mirrors must be syncing; the download took way longer than it should have!), installed to the 860 SSD with the 1TB as /home (leaving the old 1TB /home alone), and successfully updated with CR afterwards. The install of the ELrepo nvidia driver went smoothly, and after some install work and rsync work I'm back operational; a USB 3.0 enclosure for the older mSATA boot drive made it much easier. I spent more time trying to troubleshoot GNOME3's startup than it took to install and update! In a related vein, does anyone have a pointer to a good solid GNOME3 startup document that gives enough detail to where someone can actually troubleshoot without having to patch and rebuild gjs and stack trace javascript? Just a simple startup log woul be nice, instead of the SIGSEGV in /var/log/messages..... (side note: I really hate how the Android GMail messes up threading; the Samsung email app is better, but it can't properly display a lot of the messages in the CentOS list (such as Johnny's) and GMail can)