Ok, I've found something that will work - adding --direct rules. That, I can do via iptables-save | a 10-line awk script. A question, though: in iptables, we've got INPUT and FORWARD defined as using the same chain. Is there a way to do that with firewalld - it's not clear from what I'm reading. Once I have this working, I'm going to investigate if I can export them as rich rules, so in the new format. mark