On 2019-09-25 10:12, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On 25/09/2019 03:12, Fred Smith wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54:34PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: >>> On Tue, 24 Sep, 2019 at 14:48:57 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: >>>> On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 21:27:07 +0100 >>>> Liam O'Toole wrote: >>>> >>>>> If the availability of a particular desktop environment is a >>>>> showstopper, then perhaps RHEL and CentOS are not the best choice for >>>>> you. >>>> >>>> That may be, but in view of the fact that you can even get a version >>>> of CDE that works (very well) on Centos 7 >>>> (https://github.com/dcantrell/cderpm if you're interested), I find >>>> it difficult to believe that a widely used and mature desktop like >>>> Mate will just disappear on a widely used and mature Linux >>>> distribution like Centos. >>>> >>> >>> I'm not suggesting that it will. A few years ago, soon after the source >>> code of CDE was released, I downloaded, compiled, and installed CDE in a >>> CentOS 6 VM. Why? Because I could. But would I conduct any serious >>> business in that environment? Of course not. And why is that? Because it >>> receives no enterprise support. >>> >>>> And since I've been using Centos for everything for a lot of years >>>> I'm not in a hurry to change to something else if I can avoid it. >>>> >>>>> Providing and maintaining >>>>> alternative desktop environments over the (long) life cycle of >>>>> CentOS 8 >>>>> will require a sustained effort by volunteers over many years. >>>> >>>> If that isn't being organized by someone at this time, I would be >>>> frankly surprised. >>> >>> It could well be that someone is organising it. On the other hand, it >>> could be not. Either way, it will not be supported by RHEL and CentOS. >>> What happens when a critical vulnerability is discovered in that >>> software? Who will notify you of it? Who will fix it? >>> >>> At the time of writing, Mate in EPEL 7 is still at version 1.16. The >>> upstream version is at 1.22. Have any critical vulnerabilities been >>> fixed in the meantime? I have no idea. Do you? >> >> Nope. >> >> OTOH, if I was forced to use Gnome, I may well go shoot myself. > > Like they say, Linux is all about choice. :-) And even better: there are UNIX (BSD rather) descendants too, so there is even more choice ;-) Valeri > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++