Let me start out by making clear I *LOATHE* gnome, ok? So I don't want to hear about it. What's happening is this: I did this: yum groupinstall "Development and Creative Workstation" yum groupinstall "KDE Plasma Workspaces" Now, when I go in graphical mode, I try to change to kde on login. Nope - minutes later, I can see a cursor, and a gray screen. Ditto on the "safe mode", and ditto on "gnome classic". What have I missed? mark