[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

Tue Dec 8 17:21:49 UTC 2020
Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu>

On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:11 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote:

> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> >>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
> >>> the community.  Why would we trust these promises?
> >>
> >> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the
> >> community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone expects to
> >> just magically happen.
> >>
> >>
> > The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We
> don't
> > have time for that.
> >
> > We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been
> > diverging from this for a while (note the change in version
> names/numbers)
> > and we DON'T WANT THAT!
> Right, you want free RHEL .. so get in touch with Red Hat and see if you
> qualify for it.
I want what  was promised to us in the past. On the schedule that was
already published.

Here is how you can convert:
> https://access.redhat.com/articles/2360841
> Or, you can see if Stream can meet your requirements of something you
> can just get for free.
> Or, you can do something else.  It is all up to you.

No, it's *because* of you  (collective "you," that is) that we have to do
way more work than we planned, or have budgeted for. It's not "up to me."
There are many other forces here that are extremely hard to change. I'm not
talking about reinstalling my laptop. Remember that the "E" stands for

Can you not see that we are pissed off because what was advertised as being
stable through 2029 has been swept out from under us? All you have to do is
postpone this *massive* change to CentOS 9, and announce that from the

The reaction to this is universally negative.

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