On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote: > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as quite arrogant? I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has several programs where they give away RHEL for free. CentOS Stream is free. CentOS Linux 8 is going away in at the end of 2021. Those are facts. He said he wanted free Linux and did not want to interact with the community. I provided all the alternatives that i know for that. Stream, a qualified version of RHEL that can be obtained from Red Hat for free (has nothing to do with CentOS) or some other distribution. I am not being arrogant or negative. Just pointing out facts. I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17 more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not going to happen. I know .. I've tried. > >> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>: >> >> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: >>>>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with >>>>> the community. Why would we trust these promises? >>>> >>>> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the >>>> community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone expects to >>>> just magically happen. >>>> >>>> >>> The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We don't >>> have time for that. >>> >>> We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been >>> diverging from this for a while (note the change in version names/numbers) >>> and we DON'T WANT THAT! >> >> Right, you want free RHEL .. so get in touch with Red Hat and see if you >> qualify for it. >> >> Here is how you can convert: >> >> https://access.redhat.com/articles/2360841 >> >> Or, you can see if Stream can meet your requirements of something you >> can just get for free. >> >> Or, you can do something else. It is all up to you.