On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:35 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu> wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > >> On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote: >> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as >> quite arrogant? >> >> I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has >> several programs where they give away RHEL for free. CentOS Stream is >> free. CentOS Linux 8 is going away in at the end of 2021. >> >> Those are facts. >> >> He said he wanted free Linux and did not want to interact with the >> community. I provided all the alternatives that i know for that. >> >> Stream, a qualified version of RHEL that can be obtained from Red Hat >> for free (has nothing to do with CentOS) or some other distribution. >> >> I am not being arrogant or negative. Just pointing out facts. >> >> I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17 >> more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not >> going to happen. I know .. I've tried. >> >> > That doesn't sound much like a "community" to me. That's my point. > > (And I explicitly did not ask for "free Linux," or even "free RHEL." I > only asked for what the CentOS web page says, and has said for your 17 > years.) > "Since March 2004, CentOS Linux has been a community-supported distribution derived from sources freely provided to the public by Red Hat. As such, CentOS Linux aims to be functionally compatible with RHEL." > > > > >> >> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>: >> >> >> >> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: >> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: >> >>>>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with >> >>>>> the community. Why would we trust these promises? >> >>>> >> >>>> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the >> >>>> community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone expects to >> >>>> just magically happen. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We >> don't >> >>> have time for that. >> >>> >> >>> We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been >> >>> diverging from this for a while (note the change in version >> names/numbers) >> >>> and we DON'T WANT THAT! >> >> >> >> Right, you want free RHEL .. so get in touch with Red Hat and see if >> you >> >> qualify for it. >> >> >> >> Here is how you can convert: >> >> >> >> https://access.redhat.com/articles/2360841 >> >> >> >> Or, you can see if Stream can meet your requirements of something you >> >> can just get for free. >> >> >> >> Or, you can do something else. It is all up to you. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > > -- > > *Matt Phelps* > > *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* > > (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) > > Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian > > > 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 > email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> > > -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>