[CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

Wed Dec 9 08:19:14 UTC 2020
Ljubomir Ljubojevic <centos at plnet.rs>

I agree with you 100%. I was almost laughed at by vast majority of Linux
professionals when I say I use CentOS exclusively, because 90% of them
uses Debian or Ubuntu, and around 99% of developers does the same.

I see this developing like this:
All/most of the hosting companies will stop offering CentOS in favor of
Debian-based distro's (I doubt they will try other RHEL clones) and the
number of people who *HAVE* to learn CentOS/RHEL will dwindle, leaving
only those who work for RHEL customers, reducing Red Hats subscription pool.

I managed to filter all of my feelings and thoughts in two sentences:

Majority of CentOS users only care about "99% binary compatibility with
*upstream* distro". Take that away and entire Red Hat opensource model
and support is gone, same as Oracle has very little following in Linux

On 12/9/20 8:15 AM, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote:
> On 9.12.2020 0.38, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 08:34:54AM -0600, Christopher Wensink wrote:
>> Is it possible that more regressions will get through than have before?
>> Well, sure, some. But let's not pretend that even RHEL is ever
>> regression-free. It's software, after all, and there are bugs and
>> errata. I don't think that for most self-supported CentOS use, it will
>> be particularly dangerous to switch to Stream at all.
> It might or it might not. But you can't say to people in good faith anymore
> that it will be as stable as the current RHEL release.
>> And if your use case isn't covered by one of the upcoming low- and
>> no-cost programs, and you can't take the risk or the possible increased
>> change management overhead, or for some other reason... well, is it
>> _really_ so bad for companies to pay for RHEL? (I like my family to be
>> able to eat, so I'm a bit biased.... but all of this has to come from
>> something.)
> I have recommended CentOS to my customers as way to get going and also
> recommended getting the subscription for RHEL when possible afterwards.
> After the change I lost my last argument for not going to Ubuntu LTS
> instead. Lot of companies I deal with have already done that. Problem is
> that with Ubuntu being in developers/users workstations that is what
> people mainly want without good arguments for something different.
> This might serve the way to reduce amount of RHEL subscriptions in
> future. If this will happen, that I don't know. What I do know is that I
> don't have any arguments left for getting people started on RHEL/CentOS
> route.
> -vpk
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Ljubomir Ljubojevic
(Love is in the Air)
PL Computers
Serbia, Europe

StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant