On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:59 AM mark <m.roth at 5-cent.us> wrote: > Oh, that's right, it's 2020, the dumpster fire of a year. > > On 12/9/20 4:40 AM, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote: > > > > On 09/12/2020 09:26, centos at niob.at wrote: > >> On 09/12/2020 07:16, Kingsly John wrote: > >>> > >>> A non-paying CentOS user is not a real loss for RHEL. But people > dumping > >>> CentOS for a non-RHEL clone is definitely going to impact their future > >>> revenues as they are losing mindshare/goodwill/easy migration etc. > <snip>> > >> I am seeing this in practice already with juniors - they all use > >> Ubuntu on their personal systems and they hate having to deal with > >> RHEL. And their opinions matter in the long run. > >> > > And exactly the same applies to senior (or retired) admins on their home > > computers. My main home machine runs about a dozen testbed VMs, > > DHCP/DNS for the home network, Amanda, NFS and Samba for other machines, > > ownCloud, Apache, Zotero and DokuWiki for the family. I want a stable > > server under that lot, not a beta release. > > > Retired sr. Linux admin here also, also running CentOS at home. Moved to > 7 this past summer (really dislike sstemd, hung onto 6 as long as > possible). > > What I find outright offensive is that I see someone posted the specs > for the Board... and #2 was "community outreach". > > Can someone point me to a post, ONE SINGLE POST, before this > announcement, saying that this was being considered? That this might > possibly happen? > > Show me that this was not just presented to the community as a fait > accompli, non-negotiable. > > mark > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Hear! HEAR! NOBODY asked. -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>