On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:54 AM Phil Perry <pperry at elrepo.org> wrote: > On 10/12/2020 03:55, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 6:07 PM Lamar Owen <lowen at pari.edu> wrote: > > > >> On 12/9/20 12:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > >>> While I'm not sure how we'll get there, it seems like the > >>> mutually satisfying end result would be one where third party binary > >>> drivers work with CentOS Stream kernels. Let's see what we can do. > >>> > >> So, I want to address this part a bit. In MANY cases, it's not a > >> third-party driver that ELrepo packages; it's an in-kernel driver that > >> Red Hat has decided to disable. Such as the megaraid_sas driver I need > >> for my servers. > > > > Ah yes, that's a great call-out. I'm not sure what the plan is there (or > > if there is one), but to me it seems like the sort of thing a SIG would > > build. > > > > Well, yes, about 10 years too late for those discussions I'm afraid ;-) > Yes, but the calculus has changed a bit from 10 years ago, too, no? > And besides, why on earth would Red Hat remove support for older > hardware that you (understandably) no longer want to commit resources to > maintaining, only to turn round and commit resources to maintaining them > in a SIG? That's why you guys reached out to us (elrepo) in the first > place. Note we've moved from me discussing facts about how RHEL works to my unauthoritative opinions on matters ;-) My point is really only this: if past decisions no longer make the most sense in the context of new events, we need to redesign. To the extent we can make things better we should make them better. For this topic it's probably too early to tell if or how things should change in light of the upcoming changes, but it's clear that handling it will make CentOS Stream adoption an option for more people who use CentOS today. -- Brendan Conoboy / Linux Project Lead / Red Hat, Inc.