On the other hand, I believe and seeing the glass half full, that this is good to stir the waters a bit since it has been a long time since we saw new Forks of Operating Systems that could be so important and that make the communities work together again in something common without going through a company. On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:37 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:30 AM Victor Pereira <victor.pereira at unix.cl> > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne <rpyne at kinfolk.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > > > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > > > > IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky > > > > rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same. > > > > > > > > I've been around the Linux world for many years and looked at and > tried > > > > many distributions. Most of them are either unstable or bloated, or > > both. > > > > > > > > The only thing I'd trust Oracle to do is screw the computing > community > > > > any way possible. > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. My current plan is to recommend we stay on CentOS 7 and switch > > to > > > Rocky Linux for version 8, maybe in a year or so. > > > > > > Worst case scenario is Red Hat kills CentOS 7 (which would *not* > surprise > > > me at all now) and we need to bridge the gap with Oracle. > > > > > > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, > apart > > > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be > for a > > > while. > > > > > > We shall see... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 12/11/2020 7:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > > > > Le 11/12/2020 à 14:09, Liam O'Toole a écrit : > > > > >> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or > hell > > to > > > > trust them. > > > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now. > > > > > > > > > > :o) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > CentOS mailing list > > > > CentOS at centos.org > > > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > *Matt Phelps* > > > > > > *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* > > > > > > (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) > > > > > > Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian > > > > > > > > > 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 > > > email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > > > > > > > cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter > > > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube < > > http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube > > > > > > > | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS mailing list > > > CentOS at centos.org > > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > I am not so sure that Oracle will do the same as RedHat ... as it has > done > > with other Communities that it has bought, I would honestly prefer > > something 100% community and that it gives us the necessary business > tools > > to move to production 100% compatible systems, I think RockyLinux and > what > > CLoudLinux intends to do is good and gives a wide range of possibilities > to > > choose from. > > -- > > Victor > > > > Totally agree. > > -- > > *Matt Phelps* > > *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* > > (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) > > Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian > > > 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 > email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube > > > | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- Victor