It is not that we haven't been here before, this is just history repeating itself. IBM, SCO, Sun, Novell, etc. majorly have screwed up because of some geniuses having a great business idea. (that's how BSD disappeared, Solaris was a disaster, Xenix never made it.. and whatever happened to SCO etc?) But here is the point, RHEL for example is used at scale a lot now, because there are people that know how to deal with it (far and few beyond) .... and the ones I know use Centos for their own stuff (at home) because it is so similar. It is already a problem to find qualified people that can use/deal with RHEL in a production environment at scale (if you know what you're doing, you easily can get a cosy 6 figure job, because it's next to impossible to find a decent sys person with experience, for sure not for at scale operations) , and those are not going to pay hundreds/thousands for a RHEL license at home, that is why they use Centos, while at work working with RHEL. I am in that situation, I request 5-6 figures worth of RHEL licenses on a regular basis, and use several Centos machines at homes (yeah I am that guy that doesn't have a life and my 'hobby' is kinda like my work.) It will be a very freaking cold day in hell before I start paying thousands to have virtually 'the same thing' at home as at work. If a few months down the road, if I decide to use Linus XYZ, or whatever, than that is what we'll be using where I get my pay check from ... and if not, well, good luck finding someone that can keep things running there. Because that is what it comes down to. It is not the product that determines what the "industry standard" is.. it is the ones that have experience and can actually make stuff work. I think Centos is dead because RHEL just committed suicide. Ron On 12/15/20 12:06 AM, Simon Avery wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 22:48, Ruslanas Gžibovskis <ruslanas at lpic.lt> wrote: > >> your suggestions? >> >> > Different: > Debian, OpenSuse, Ubuntu-server. All good choices. > > Not quite so different: > Rocky, (Maybe one of the corporate sponsored centos-a-likes, (OEL, > Cloudlinux etc) but we've now learned it would be nicer to rely on a distro > that wasn't provided at the whim of someone who might need to cut costs at > any time) > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos