On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> wrote: > On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote: > > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as > quite arrogant? > > I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has > several programs where they give away RHEL for free. CentOS Stream is > free. CentOS Linux 8 is going away in at the end of 2021. > > Those are facts. > > He said he wanted free Linux and did not want to interact with the > community. I provided all the alternatives that i know for that. > > Stream, a qualified version of RHEL that can be obtained from Red Hat > for free (has nothing to do with CentOS) or some other distribution. > > I am not being arrogant or negative. Just pointing out facts. > > I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17 > more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not > going to happen. I know .. I've tried. > > That doesn't sound much like a "community" to me. That's my point. (And I explicitly did not ask for "free Linux," or even "free RHEL." I only asked for what the CentOS web page says, and has said for your 17 years.) > > >> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>: > >> > >> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: > >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen at redhat.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > >>>>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with > >>>>> the community. Why would we trust these promises? > >>>> > >>>> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the > >>>> community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone expects to > >>>> just magically happen. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We > don't > >>> have time for that. > >>> > >>> We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been > >>> diverging from this for a while (note the change in version > names/numbers) > >>> and we DON'T WANT THAT! > >> > >> Right, you want free RHEL .. so get in touch with Red Hat and see if you > >> qualify for it. > >> > >> Here is how you can convert: > >> > >> https://access.redhat.com/articles/2360841 > >> > >> Or, you can see if Stream can meet your requirements of something you > >> can just get for free. > >> > >> Or, you can do something else. It is all up to you. > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>