In a new install of Centos 8, I installed the xfce4 packages from EPEL. Here's what dnf says I have [pauljohn32 at localhost ~]$ dnf list *xfce4* Last metadata expiration check: 0:25:19 ago Installed Packages libxfce4ui.x86_64 libxfce4ui-devel.x86_64 libxfce4util.x86_64 libxfce4util-devel.x86_64 xfce4-about.x86_64 xfce4-battery-plugin.x86_64 xfce4-panel.x86_64 xfce4-panel-devel.x86_64 xfce4-places-plugin.x86_64 xfce4-screenshooter.x86_64 xfce4-screenshooter-plugin.x86_64 xfce4-session.x86_64 xfce4-settings.x86_64 xfce4-systemload-plugin.x86_64 xfce4-terminal.x86_64 I log out and try to use XFCE4 at log in. I cannot find a way to choose it. I was guessing this would be like Centos 7. On the display manager, after I put in my user name, there is the little * by the password. When I do that, I see choices with names like Wayland Classic X11 but I don't see XFCE4 session or similar. I am guessing I missed an XFCE4 package from EPEL? pj -- Paul E. Johnson http://pj.freefaculty.org To write to me directly, please address me at pauljohn at ku.edu.