At Sat, 27 Jun 2020 22:09:47 -0500 CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> wrote: > > > > On 6/27/20 5:26 PM, Ron Loftin wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-06-27 at 18:17 -0400, Jay Hart wrote: > >> We currently have a Brother MFC-5490CN. Printer firmware is dated > >> June 1010. (yeah, 10 years old).  Few years ago the brother software > >> wouldn't work for printing under Fedora.  No problem, can print under > >> Windows 10.  Then it stopped scanning.  Could still print...under > >> Windows. > >> > >> Now, to fix the scanning features working I installed updated drivers > >> under Windows, now it scans like champ, but won't print, at all. > >> > >> Time to go!!! > > > > I'd say that 10 years is a decent run for a printer, depending on > > usage. > > > > If you want to stick with Brother, check out the Staples Web site and > > look at the refurb page.  I've gotten some good deals there. > > > > I would recommend HP LaserJet printers. Have no experience with ink > printers. I would recommend to make sure that you get postscript > printer. Then you will be OK on Linux and UNIX (CUPS will be your friend). > > I have no experience with low end printers. I was hesitant recently, and > could not throw away HP LaserJet 4050, which was purchased 18 years ago, > was getting really tough beating being used in the Department I support, > and still works. HP *used* to make very good laser printers. *Maybe* they still do, at their higher end, but they are just very expensive. For the most part HP's *inkjet* printers are junk. Inkjet technology is a technology that seems to never really delivered on the promise of low-cost, but good quality. They seem to be cheaply made and can be terribly expensive in terms of consumables -- but in a nickle and dime way -- eg a $20 cartridge only prints 100-200 pages or something -- you end up being nickle and dimed to death... Part of what happened is that laser printers have gotten cheaper, generally without losing quality. Laser printers only *seem* expensive (higher capital cost -- but tend to last longer) with more costly cartrides (but each cartridge prints several *thousand* pages, vs. ink carts only printing *hundreds* of pages). Once you look in terms of *years* of service and *thousands* of pages, laser printers are actually cheaper to buy and operate than inkjets. The other *big* gotcha is printer language: laser printers are page oriented devices -- they *must* buffer a whole page at a time -- so often laser printers speak some flavor of PostScript (they might as well, since PostScript is also page oriented) -- this makes them almost always Linux / UNIX friendly devices. Inkjet printers are line oriented and generally only buffer a "line". Inkjet printers almost never speak PostScript, but instead use a whole pile of "languages". And *some* are "winprinters" which use some arcane protocol / language that only works properly under MS-Windows. > > Valeri > > >> > >> Hence my question... > >> > >> Jay > >> > >>> > >>> Our office has had a Brother MFC-8510DN for at least five years - > >>> no issues.  As has been said below, you do have to download and > >>> install > >>> the driver but the process hasn't been problematic.  Having said > >>> that, I haven't pushed the limit on it's capabilities, just done > >>> rather > >>> plain printing. > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> From: CentOS <centos-bounces at centos.org> on behalf of Ron Loftin <r > >>> eloftin at twcny.rr.com> > >>> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 5:02 PM > >>> To: centos at centos.org <centos at centos.org> > >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS] HP vs. Brother Printers: Use with > >>> Centos/Fedora > >>> > >>> CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. 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If you have received this message in > >>> error, > >>> please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all > >>> copies of the message. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, 2020-06-27 at 15:44 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 17:33:39 -0400 > >>>> Jay Hart wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> If you had to rate which printer brand works better with Linux > >>>>> (Fedora and > >>>>> Centos), what would it be? > >>>> Any Brother printer that I've ever had the misfortune to have to > >>>> deal > >>>> with either didn't work at all or if could be made to work, it > >>>> didn't > >>>> work for long. > >>>> > >>>> If it's a Brother, run away as fast as you can.  They're the > >>>> cheapest > >>>> crappiest thing you can possibly imagine. > >>>> > >>>> My wife makes quilts and says the same thing about Brother sewing > >>>> machines. > >>>> > >>> I can't speak to the sewing machines, but I have to say that I've > >>> had > >>> very good luck with Brother printers.  However, we have to be > >>> honest > >>> and acknowledge that I'm talking about LASER printers, not the > >>> $%^&* > >>> inkjet silliness. > >>> > >>> In my DEFINITELY not-so-humble opinion, the "run away as fast as > >>> you > >>> can" advice applies to ALL inkjets that are intended for home use. > >>> > >>> The only real differences I'm aware of between Brother and HP LASER > >>> printers are price, and the fact that the HP drivers are usually > >>> included in the distribution by default, and you have to download > >>> and > >>> install the Brother drivers.  I'm sitting next to a Brother MFC L- > >>> 2750DW that is a year or so old, and it does everything I need it > >>> to. > >>> > >>> As always, YMMV. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Ron Loftin                      reloftin at twcny.rr.com > >>> > >>> "God, root, what is difference ?"       Piter from UserFriendly > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> CentOS mailing list > >>> CentOS at centos.org > >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> CentOS mailing list > >>> CentOS at centos.org > >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >>> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> CentOS mailing list > >> CentOS at centos.org > >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Cell: 413-658-7953 GV: 978-633-5364 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services