On Tue, 2020-05-05 at 10:32 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Tue, 5 May 2020 05:30:26 -0400 > Eddie O'Connor wrote: > > > Are there .conf files for the desktop?....what about > > logs?....something's > > got to be amiss somewhere....and Linux always complains when it > > is.....in > > logs. Just wondering out loud... > > What happens if he sets up a new user? Does the desktop work then? Frank, For some reason I didn't get Eddie O'Connor's message. If there are .conf files they're hiding pretty well. And as I said, systemctl -ex, journalctl, and dmesg don't show any errors. If you search for "troubleshooting MATE desktop" I think you'll be disappointed in how little help there is. I guess that's to be expected of a desktop that "just works". Yours is an excellent suggestion. If the new user works, the problem would be a fault in my account's configuration. If not, then it's the MATE system. So I created a new user "test", reset the machine, and logged into the MATE desktop as the new user. Unfortunately I see the exact same misbehavior. I'm about ready to run "dnf erase *mate*" and try re-installing MATE from scratch from the GNOME3 desktop. Is that possible without ripping the heart out of C8 by deleting other critical packages? --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL