> > > On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > <snip> >> They run into the same interdependency.. but because they have >> organically >> grown their distro every day, those dependencies grew 1 at a time. >> >> For EPEL and other EL repos you have to jump multiple Fedora releases to >> catch up. So in EL6 we were Fedora Linux 12. In EL7.0 we had to jump and >> rebuild from scratch a lot of Fedora Linux 18 and Fedora Linux 19 and >> then >> progressed up to about Fedora 24 as various parts got rebased and >> upgraded >> to 7.9. For EL8, we have to jump to Fedora Linux 28 and then each dot >> release rebase parts while keeping other parts back because rebasing is >> focused. [This means that if something needs glibc-2.32 you can't put it >> in >> EL8 without a lot of patching to make it work with whatever changed... >> but >> some other related components may be able to recompile fine.] >> >> Thus you need people who enjoy that kind of work to do this because EPEL >> is >> nearly all volunteer work. I had to work after hours or take vacation >> time >> to work on getting EPEL-8 out so that I could get focused effort on it. >> Most people don't have that 'luxury' and so the number of volunteers is >> small but the expectation that it will be there is large. >> >> >> >>> Tony Schreiner >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS at centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >> >> > I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" > from 2003. He, along with contributors Thompson (inventor of UNIX), > Kernigham (C and AWK), Korn and others of that callibre, espouse > creating "little tools" that do one job reliably and well. The likes of > Gnome or systemd certainly would never fit into this philosophy. I > really think we have lost a lot of maintainability and ease of > management over the last 20 years as applications are stretched to do > ever more. > -- > J Martin Rushton MBCS Or you can say it with Henry Spencers words: Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.