On 25/02/2021 18:18, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: > Am 25.02.21 um 15:12 schrieb J Martin Rushton via CentOS: >> >> >> On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> <snip> >>> >> I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" >> from 2003. He, along with contributors Thompson (inventor of UNIX), >> Kernigham (C and AWK), Korn and others of that callibre, espouse >> creating "little tools" that do one job reliably and well. The likes >> of Gnome or systemd certainly would never fit into this philosophy. I >> really think we have lost a lot of maintainability and ease of >> management over the last 20 years as applications are stretched to do >> ever more. > > > Well, do "ldd /bin/awk" and you see interconnected dependencies. > > I see it the same way and if I want, I would see it the same way with > a broader view. Do one job well - interaction with the user, Gnome. > Do one job well - when a service is stopped, it is stopped (systemd). > > So it depends of the scope of view. Sure, there are tools that try > to do everything. One that came into my mind is YasT from SuSE. > That one I would classify as not fitting into the common unix > philosophy. > > > -- > Leon > _______________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I don't want to get bogged down in arguments about which application has the most dependencies. It's really a matter of scale. Depending upon a few system libraries is reasonable, but when when the ramifications extend to dozens then perhaps a pause for thought might be suggested? Oh and BTW: bash-4.2$ ldd /bin/awk linux-vdso.so.1 => (0x00007ffcc876a000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fcd25995000) libm.so.6 => /lib64/libm.so.6 (0x00007fcd25693000) libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007fcd252c5000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fcd25b99000) bash-4.2$ -- which seems reasonable to me. -- J Martin Rushton MBCS