>> >> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL has >> a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, amongst >> other things) -- as it SHOULD, given that it's intended as an addon to >> EL and needs to be very tightly controlled. It's just more difficult to >> get started these days relative to when anyone could build an rpm as >> long as they had a copy of Maximum RPM and knew how to drive 'rpm -ba' >> .... back when building as root in a non-reproducible buildroot wasn't a >> cardinal sin..... >> > > Not that it matters .. BUT .. EL8 is much harder to build for. There > are modular components, not all the Devel files exist, etc. > > It is much harder than EL7. Thanks Johnny for reminding. I was wondering why the situation for EL8 is so much worse than for EL7 and that was true before CentOS Stream came up. In the end I have never been happy with the new modules system and how it makes packaging much more difficult than it was and than it should be. IMHO the hurdles to build high quality packages should be as simple as possible but the difficulties to do so went in the wrong direction. The result we see now. Today we have an unstable distribution (Fedora) with a quite good and comprehensive package set, and we have stable (EL) with an unstable and lacking package set. Simon