[CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

Thu Jul 8 21:12:51 UTC 2021
Leon Fauster <leonfauster at googlemail.com>

On 08.07.21 19:53, Gionatan Danti wrote:
> Il 2021-07-08 16:46 Leon Fauster via CentOS ha scritto:
>> Maybe "we" could fill this gap? Describe this state of EPEL? Did you
>> requested such missing packages? From the early on (EL8.0) I requested
>> such EPEL packages, some fedora maintainers branched there packages into
>> EPEL8. Even a request for a devel package was honored and the rpm was
>> included by RH later in 8.1. This is a community, so communicate!
>> Everything else is a product in ready state that must be paid.
> For what it is worth, I opened various RH bugzilla enhancement request 
> in the 10+ years of using CentOS. One of the last: 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1902781
> That said, lets face in: current CentOS is not really a community, at 
> least in the sense that a community can steer the project direction. 
> Nobody polled for Stream or asked about it. Stream simply happened due 
> to an unilateral Red Hat decision. *Which is PERFECTLY fine*, unless 
> trying to masking it behind the "community" word.
> My view is that RH/CentOS would be relatively inadequate for many roles 
> without the outstanding work done by EPEL and the rest of the CentOS 
> community, unless you are an hyperscaler who can do its own internal 
> package additions. Red Hat failing to recognize the enormous value of 
> EPEL and former CentOS model really baffles me.

Good phrased. I see it exactly like this but let me take a dialectic
position just for the sake of insights. CentOS Linux (or Rocky Linux)
is a downstream rebuild, right? So, the fences are already set.
Right now, I am seeing a lot of requests in the Rocky forum, to add
new shiny stuff to the distribution and the answer to most of this
is (more or less); "we (Rocky) are a 1:1 rebuild of upstream and we can
not add new stuff in an arbitrary way". So, when talking about a
community then we have different concepts behind it. A RH ecosystem
community is not the same as a Debian community. It was never and it
will never be the same.

I see the RH ecosystem as a hybrid opportunity (perspective from the 
outside), so not all "directions" can be influenced but there is enough
room to contribute to directions especially with Stream now.

PS: Do not get me wrong; the whole communication from RH about this
"CentOS Change" is catastrophically.