I have found a: HPE 873830-S01 ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 for <$300 without drives. If I can believe the seller, it has a AMD Opteron X3216 Dual-core (2 Core) 1.6GHz and 8GB Installed. It has 4 3.5" bays. and 1? "Media" bay? https://www.servertechsupply.com/873830-s01/ this could well be acceptable. Got to find out power draw. Looks like ~40W. Any input on issues of OS install? Do I go with separate OS and data RAID1 sets? Also HPE is ClearOS. I ran ClearOS6 for years before going with QNAP turnkey. Perhaps current ClearOS is better, but it does not handle multi-domain email as I need. Or it did not. So I am going to install my own CentOS variant and iRedMail... thanks On 1/5/23 13:08, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 08:18:08AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> Proliant gen8 does NOT have UEFI. >> >> So I think this means I better move up to the gen10... >> > > I'm pleased with my Gen 10+ (Plus). Pricer than I thought > you want. > > I like the "no power supply", just an external brick. > Quiet. I put in a PCI card to use 2 NVMe sticks, one for > system and one for /home. You can also boot from an internal > usb port like a thumb drive permanently installed. > > Carriers for 2.5inch SSD drives work fine so with few fans, > no drive motors, could be quite low power. > > Mine acts as email server, local caching DNS server (dnsmasq) > and Amanda backup server. > > Jon >