+1 I now have only two servers left on CentOS - both on 7, as 8 and 9 and the whole stream thing just never passed my confidence tests. All my new machines since stream was enabled have been on Ubuntu LTS. It has been a learning curve, a little more work to deal with certain updates and the 5 years vs 10 years of CentOS is going to be more work still - however they at least provide an OS upgrade path that seems to work just fine, although apps and config changes are required as versions update. Will keep watching, but having worked in large corporate environments with IBM as a major IT partner, there is no way I'm holding my breath for any meaningful change. My thanks to the wonderful team that made CentOS what it was (up to version 7), and I understand their reasons to embrace the change - just not something I'm prepared to live with. Shalom Rob On 25/07/23 01:02, jefflpost at twc.com wrote: > Somehow the text of my message got deleted: > > I'm still using CentOS 7 because both security and stability are > important to me. While CentOS Stream may, or may not, have comparable > security, it is severely lacking in stability. IMHO both CentOS 8 and > CentOS 9 are gigantic piles of garbage. > > When the time comes that CentOS 7 no longer meets my needs, I'll be > switching to some other distro, most likely Debian. > > JP > > -----------------------------------------From: jefflpost at twc.com > To: "CentOS mailing list" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday July 23 2023 6:29:52PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat > > -----------------------------------------From: "Steven Rosenberg" > > To: "CentOS mailing list" > Cc: > Sent: Sunday July 23 2023 5:13:08PM > Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat > > On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 4:21 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > /> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos