To all the artists and designers here, we need your help.
With RHEL 8 beta released, we need to start producing artwork for CentOS 8. It's time for the CentOS Artwork SIG, and anyone else that's interested in contributing to this effort, to start working on everything that will be needed for the new release.
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
As we dig, we may find more things that need to be updated to the new 8 theme.
Additionally, we will need to update some of the assets listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Identity
... and produce new assets for 8 to be listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo
And, finally, we need someone to step up to lead this effort.
While we don't yet know for certain when RHEL 8 will officially release, it's safe to assume that it's soon, and we need your help.
My first thought on this is we need to refresh the logo. It has been essentially unchanged for 3 releases so far. Using the same in 8 would mean half our major releases have been using the same 10+ year old logo. I am not saying ditch the logo, rather review the current one, look at options, and if we want to stick with the current logo, we need to modernize it (crystalize, emoji-ize, whatever). Also remember, we now have support for 4K and better screens, so we need to ensure a very high resolution logo, or rasterize it so it scales cleanly from Cellphone to 8K desktop.
That said, I think a new logo is in order. The current one screams 2008.
Greg
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS-devel centos-devel-bounces@centos.org On Behalf Of Rich Bowen Sent: March 7, 2019 3:46 PM To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org; The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 Artwork needed
To all the artists and designers here, we need your help.
With RHEL 8 beta released, we need to start producing artwork for CentOS 8. It's time for the CentOS Artwork SIG, and anyone else that's interested in contributing to this effort, to start working on everything that will be needed for the new release.
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
As we dig, we may find more things that need to be updated to the new 8 theme.
Additionally, we will need to update some of the assets listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Identity
... and produce new assets for 8 to be listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo
And, finally, we need someone to step up to lead this effort.
While we don't yet know for certain when RHEL 8 will officially release, it's safe to assume that it's soon, and we need your help.
-- Rich Bowen - rbowen@redhat.com @CentOSProject // @rbowen 859 351 9166 _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Hi guys!I'm in this list already a year and I'm very glad to introduce myself.Some time ago I already did a scratch revision of updated logo. Please take a look: https://www.behance.net/gallery/60836341/CentOSI%27ll be very happy to chat about logo updates and some work for Artwork SIG.Please contact me in case of any questions.Thanks, Serguey Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 17:21, Young, Gregory gregory.young@solarwinds.com a écrit :
My first thought on this is we need to refresh the logo. It has been essentially unchanged for 3 releases so far. Using the same in 8 would mean half our major releases have been using the same 10+ year old logo. I am not saying ditch the logo, rather review the current one, look at options, and if we want to stick with the current logo, we need to modernize it (crystalize, emoji-ize, whatever). Also remember, we now have support for 4K and better screens, so we need to ensure a very high resolution logo, or rasterize it so it scales cleanly from Cellphone to 8K desktop.
That said, I think a new logo is in order. The current one screams 2008.
Greg
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS-devel centos-devel-bounces@centos.org On Behalf Of Rich Bowen Sent: March 7, 2019 3:46 PM To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org; The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 Artwork needed
To all the artists and designers here, we need your help.
With RHEL 8 beta released, we need to start producing artwork for CentOS 8. It's time for the CentOS Artwork SIG, and anyone else that's interested in contributing to this effort, to start working on everything that will be needed for the new release.
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
As we dig, we may find more things that need to be updated to the new 8 theme.
Additionally, we will need to update some of the assets listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Identity
... and produce new assets for 8 to be listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo
And, finally, we need someone to step up to lead this effort.
While we don't yet know for certain when RHEL 8 will officially release, it's safe to assume that it's soon, and we need your help.
-- Rich Bowen - rbowen@redhat.com @CentOSProject // @rbowen 859 351 9166 _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel _______________________________________________ CentOS-devel mailing list CentOS-devel@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-devel
Appreciate the feedback here guys - but note that Logo's are TM content, changing them, at this point, isnt an easy process to go through. If there is widespread ask around adapting the existing logo's - I am happy to go work the msg with legal and all those things, but its a long enough process that we will likely miss the CentOS 8 timeline ( assuming 8 drops this calendar year ).
On 12/03/2019 14:38, Serguey Markov wrote:
Hi guys!I'm in this list already a year and I'm very glad to introduce myself.Some time ago I already did a scratch revision of updated logo. Please take a look: https://www.behance.net/gallery/60836341/CentOSI%27ll be very happy to chat about logo updates and some work for Artwork SIG.Please contact me in case of any questions.Thanks, Serguey Le mar. 12 mars 2019 à 17:21, Young, Gregory gregory.young@solarwinds.com a écrit :
My first thought on this is we need to refresh the logo. It has been essentially unchanged for 3 releases so far. Using the same in 8 would mean half our major releases have been using the same 10+ year old logo. I am not saying ditch the logo, rather review the current one, look at options, and if we want to stick with the current logo, we need to modernize it (crystalize, emoji-ize, whatever). Also remember, we now have support for 4K and better screens, so we need to ensure a very high resolution logo, or rasterize it so it scales cleanly from Cellphone to 8K desktop.
That said, I think a new logo is in order. The current one screams 2008.
Greg
-----Original Message----- From: CentOS-devel centos-devel-bounces@centos.org On Behalf Of Rich Bowen Sent: March 7, 2019 3:46 PM To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org; The CentOS developers mailing list. centos-devel@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-devel] CentOS 8 Artwork needed
To all the artists and designers here, we need your help.
With RHEL 8 beta released, we need to start producing artwork for CentOS 8. It's time for the CentOS Artwork SIG, and anyone else that's interested in contributing to this effort, to start working on everything that will be needed for the new release.
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
As we dig, we may find more things that need to be updated to the new 8 theme.
Additionally, we will need to update some of the assets listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Identity
... and produce new assets for 8 to be listed here: https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/Logo
And, finally, we need someone to step up to lead this effort.
While we don't yet know for certain when RHEL 8 will officially release, it's safe to assume that it's soon, and we need your help.
On 12 Mar 15:10, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Appreciate the feedback here guys - but note that Logo's are TM content, changing them, at this point, isnt an easy process to go through. If there is widespread ask around adapting the existing logo's - I am happy to go work the msg with legal and all those things, but its a long enough process that we will likely miss the CentOS 8 timeline ( assuming 8 drops this calendar year ).
I would think that we can use a new one and only then TM it.
On 12/03/2019 15:19, Julien Pivotto wrote:
On 12 Mar 15:10, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Appreciate the feedback here guys - but note that Logo's are TM content, changing them, at this point, isnt an easy process to go through. If there is widespread ask around adapting the existing logo's - I am happy to go work the msg with legal and all those things, but its a long enough process that we will likely miss the CentOS 8 timeline ( assuming 8 drops this calendar year ).
I would think that we can use a new one and only then TM it.
would prefer to have lawyers make that call,
On 3/12/19 10:30 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
On 12/03/2019 15:19, Julien Pivotto wrote:
On 12 Mar 15:10, Karanbir Singh wrote:
Appreciate the feedback here guys - but note that Logo's are TM content, changing them, at this point, isnt an easy process to go through. If there is widespread ask around adapting the existing logo's - I am happy to go work the msg with legal and all those things, but its a long enough process that we will likely miss the CentOS 8 timeline ( assuming 8 drops this calendar year ).
I would think that we can use a new one and only then TM it.
would prefer to have lawyers make that call,
Well, so long as we are not messing with the actual CentOS Logo we should be able to do other things.
So, adding an 8 to the plymouth boot screen , or doing other things should be OK .. just if we actually put the CentOS Logo on something .. it needs to be the real logo.
Backgrounds the same .. additive content is fine, all logos need to he the real logo.
(I would think)
But if we are trying to mod a logo, that would need to be approved.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 03:30:15PM +0000, Karanbir Singh wrote:
to go work the msg with legal and all those things, but its a long enough process that we will likely miss the CentOS 8 timeline ( assuming 8 drops this calendar year ).
I would think that we can use a new one and only then TM it.
would prefer to have lawyers make that call,
We're actually in the process of going through this with the Fedora logo, and I can confirm that it is neither a speedy process nor a cheap one.
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:22 PM Young, Gregory gregory.young@solarwinds.com wrote:
My first thought on this is we need to refresh the logo. It has been essentially unchanged for 3 releases so far. Using the same in 8 would mean half our major releases have been using the same 10+ year old logo. I am not saying ditch the logo, rather review the current one, look at options, and if we want to stick with the current logo, we need to modernize it (crystalize, emoji-ize, whatever). Also remember, we now have support for 4K and better screens, so we need to ensure a very high resolution logo, or rasterize it so it scales cleanly from Cellphone to 8K desktop.
That said, I think a new logo is in order. The current one screams 2008.
Hello everyone, I am digging up an old thread since I wanted to talk about the logo.
Let me reintroduce myself first. As a designer at Red Hat's Open Source Program Office (OSPO, we love acronyms it seems) - I help several free and open source communities and projects, and sadly I haven't been able to get involved with each community very deeply. However, I have done designs and swag for the events CentOS has had a presence.
CentOS has grown as a project over the years and it is no longer just a Linux distribution - things like the Special Interest Groups are building new things on top of CentOS. I think CentOS logo and branding could cover the whole "umbrella" of what CentOS is today, if we wish to modernize it. Yet we know the logo is the thing everyone recognizes and what is very big part of the project identity.
We thought about this with a few colleagues as CentOS Stream needs a logo, and the thought of modernising the brand came up as well.
I wanted to share a PDF with three ideas as a starting point, so we can share our thoughts. (attached)
I do like the third concept, but I know it is quite brutal to the existing logo we are used to, so it might not be realistic. On the other hand the idea itself would work well for different SiG's etc where you have one symbol that changes color for each sub project.. (but those arrows should point to top right to give an idea of progressing forward). The first one is of course the "safe" compromise that does not alter the original logo, but I think it's worth discussing whether we would like to modernise the logo and "CentOS" font at this point when we are working on this?
What do you think?
I apologise for the low resolution images in the pdf, this mailing list limits the size of attachments so I had to scale them quite small.
Tuomas / tigert
On Thu, 2019-11-07 at 22:38 +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote:
I wanted to share a PDF with three ideas as a starting point, so we can share our thoughts. (attached)
Nice work Tuomas :)
From all three, I'd go with the one adding the "Stream" word (or "Linux 7", "Linux 8", etc.) bellow the logo we already know. In this one, the size of "Stream" word may need adjustments and tests with different typefaces but the elements in the layout reads fast and looks to have high visual impact.
The one adding the word "Stream" on the right makes the visual reading area too large, in contrast with the one adding it below, which is smaller and compact. In my visual perspective, adding the word on the right side of the logo makes its visual interpretation slower than the first one with the word bellow, so provides less visual impact. However, it may be valid for some cases (e.g., web headers small in height but large in width).
The one remarking the word on the right presents the same visual issue than before, too large to visually cover it all in a quick glance. Additionally, the lack of CentOS Symbol on its left reduces the visual recognition of CentOS branding.
The one braking the CentOS symbol may create visual confusion about the CentOS brand. I my humble opinion, the CentOS symbol must not be broken in pieces. However I am very much agree it needs to evolve into something more simple, able to be reproduced in different visual manifestations, with less colors to meet present needs.
As a side note, remember we have https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/blob/c8/f/brands to organize brands. It may be a better place to share artwork (in SVG format preferably) that the mailing list that is limited in size. We also have https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Brand/ to organize concepts and share artwork as well.
Best regards,
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:40 AM Alain Reguera Delgado < alain.reguera@gmail.com> wrote:
As a side note, remember we have
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/blob/c8/f/brands to organize
brands. It may be a better place to share artwork (in SVG format preferably) that the mailing list that is limited in size.
I moved the discussion, as I don't like to spam mailing lists with binary attachments when they can be avoided. The git issue tool also likely works better for reviewing ideas. So lets continue there: https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/1
Tuomas
We have had some progress and a good collaboration on refreshing the CentOS logo and brand, and are preparing a proposal to the CentOS governing board.
I wrote a blog post about the design effort, please have a look: https://blog.centos.org/2020/01/updating-the-centos-logo-and-visual-style/
I realized that many of you might not have followed the discussion on the git issue, so I wanted to share it with you.
Best regards, Tuomas
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:07 PM Tuomas Kuosmanen tigert@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 3:40 AM Alain Reguera Delgado < alain.reguera@gmail.com> wrote:
As a side note, remember we have
https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/blob/c8/f/brands to organize
brands. It may be a better place to share artwork (in SVG format preferably) that the mailing list that is limited in size.
I moved the discussion, as I don't like to spam mailing lists with binary attachments when they can be avoided. The git issue tool also likely works better for reviewing ideas. So lets continue there: https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork/issue/1
Tuomas
On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 5:46 PM Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
To all the artists and designers here, we need your help.
With RHEL 8 beta released, we need to start producing artwork for CentOS 8. It's time for the CentOS Artwork SIG, and anyone else that's interested in contributing to this effort, to start working on everything that will be needed for the new release.
The first thing would be to design the artistic motif (a conceptual image that will describe CentOS 8 major release). Then spread it through all visual manifestations (anaconda, backgrounds, etc.) so to reach a consistent and unified visual identity along all of them. This designing process may take a while. Could the community throw out some words, sentences, or concepts for artists to get engaged with, or just start playing with Inkscape and Gimp to see what goes out. It would be nice to see the work progress somewhere public (e.g., https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Motifs).
Additionally, we will need to update some of the assets listed here:
What would be the assets to update?
... and produce new assets for 8 to be listed here:
What would be the new assets to produce?
And, finally, we need someone to step up to lead this effort.
I propose the person who most visible work shares (not me, of course). I may not dedicate as much time as I would like to, but definitely shall be around giving a hand to other community members.
While we don't yet know for certain when RHEL 8 will officially release,
it's safe to assume that it's soon, and we need your help.
Indeed.
Best regards,
On 3/12/19 11:54 AM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
I propose the person who most visible work shares (not me, of course). I may not dedicate as much time as I would like to, but definitely shall be around giving a hand to other community members.
This part really is the heart of the challenge - finding that right person to be the project manager. Do you have a suggestion of who might be able to do that? Is that something that you could do in conjunction with someone else, perhaps?
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:23 AM Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
Do you have a suggestion of who might be able to do that?
This is hard to say without any visible work.
Is that something that you could do in conjunction with someone else,
perhaps?
Having more people sharing ideas would be motivating. It brings better results.
This week-end I'll play a bit with Inkscape 0.92 new features, specially the Voronoi Diagram extension and the Mesh tool. Probably others can do the same, and share the result. Some ideas I have in mind are balanced, vibrant, clean, simple.
Best regards,
Hi Alain,
Could we have a short call this weekend? Generally I want to understand what kind of media this should be as well as to discuss what kind of idea we need to search. Basically, I want to understand were and how designs are used in such kind of project.
30 min meeting in hangouts can be very helpful. What do you think?
Thanks, Serguey
Le ven. 15 mars 2019 à 16:26, Alain Reguera Delgado alain.reguera@gmail.com a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 12:23 AM Rich Bowen rbowen@redhat.com wrote:
Do you have a suggestion of who might be able to do that?
This is hard to say without any visible work.
Is that something that you could do in conjunction with someone else, perhaps?
Having more people sharing ideas would be motivating. It brings better results.
This week-end I'll play a bit with Inkscape 0.92 new features, specially the Voronoi Diagram extension and the Mesh tool. Probably others can do the same, and share the result. Some ideas I have in mind are balanced, vibrant, clean, simple.
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Hi Serguey,
On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 11:00 AM Serguey Markov xenial.a@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Alain,
Could we have a short call this weekend? Generally I want to understand what kind of media this should be as well as to discuss what kind of idea we need to search. Basically, I want to understand were and how designs are used in such kind of project.
Basically:
- The media where the artwork is applied are image files inside RPMs, in a first instance. Just to replace images produced by Red Hat with new images produced by CentOS. This is for The CentOS Distribution visual manifestation. There are other visual manifestations, including web sites, posters, etc. where the artwork may be applied in a consistent way too. In most cases they are images in PNG format.
- The ideas we need to search are very subjective, just to help the creative design process. They should identify somehow the community "feeling" about this new major release. But that, as said, is a very subjective matter.
- The design itself may follow the guides in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/Backgrounds/Basics
30 min meeting in hangouts can be very helpful. What do you think?
Yes sure. Let's consider the timezone to coordinate it. I am in Uruguay, Montevideo.
Best regards.
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 15:45 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
Here:
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Motifs/CentOS8/Sketch3.
It would be nice to know your impressions and feelings about the image. This is a first round proposition using Inkscape Voronoi Diagram extension and the Mesh tool, other rounds may come based on your suggestions. Note that image source file in SVG format is also available in the wiki in case you want to make your own changes. Hope this help.
Rich, could you provide the URL of anaconda and backgrounds SRPM packages, please? I would like to explore them.
Best regards,
On 3/16/19 5:02 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 15:45 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
Here:
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Motifs/CentOS8/Sketch3.
It would be nice to know your impressions and feelings about the image. This is a first round proposition using Inkscape Voronoi Diagram extension and the Mesh tool, other rounds may come based on your suggestions. Note that image source file in SVG format is also available in the wiki in case you want to make your own changes. Hope this help.
Well, I really like it. It would be a great default desktop to replace the current one for 7.
I note that Fedora, with each release, provides several desktops - http://oswallpapers.com/fedora-29-default-desktop-wallpapers/ - is this something we want to do, as well, to provide more options.
Rich, could you provide the URL of anaconda and backgrounds SRPM packages, please? I would like to explore them.
Can someone from the Artwork SIG address this? I'm not sure which packages are involved.
Hi,
On Wed, 2019-03-27 at 11:47 -0400, Rich Bowen wrote:
Well, I really like it. It would be a great default desktop to replace the current one for 7.
Great!
I note that Fedora, with each release, provides several desktops - http://oswallpapers.com/fedora-29-default-desktop-wallpapers/ - is this something we want to do, as well, to provide more options.
Yes. Here is sketch 4, a remake of sketch 3, with four different sizes and eleven variants of color saturation:
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Motifs/CentOS8/Sketch4
Note that this one is slightly different from sketch 3. Could you try this one too and comment your impressions about it?
Can someone from the Artwork SIG address this? I'm not sure which packages are involved.
I am looking at https://git.centos.org/project/rpms and el8 related packages aren't still visible. I guess once el8 be released the related anaconda, gnome-backgrounds, centos-release packages where there are images to change will show up and it would be possible to clone them to make the rebranding tasks. Could someone validate this process?
Best regards,
On 30/03/2019 21:30, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 2019-03-27 at 11:47 -0400, Rich Bowen wrote:
Well, I really like it. It would be a great default desktop to replace the current one for 7.
Great!
I note that Fedora, with each release, provides several desktops - http://oswallpapers.com/fedora-29-default-desktop-wallpapers/ - is this something we want to do, as well, to provide more options.
Yes. Here is sketch 4, a remake of sketch 3, with four different sizes and eleven variants of color saturation:
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Motifs/CentOS8/Sketch4
Note that this one is slightly different from sketch 3. Could you try this one too and comment your impressions about it?
Can someone from the Artwork SIG address this? I'm not sure which packages are involved.
I am looking at https://git.centos.org/project/rpms and el8 related packages aren't still visible. I guess once el8 be released the related anaconda, gnome-backgrounds, centos-release packages where there are images to change will show up and it would be possible to clone them to make the rebranding tasks. Could someone validate this process?
Best regards,
Hi Alain,
Yes, that seems correct : no official sources have been pushed to us already, but we'll get all that on the new git.centos.org node (yeah, git.centos.org, reminder, will be migrated to pagure, normally in ~1w, waiting for final date and annoucing that in other thread)
But if someone wants to already start working on what's needed, I *guess* that final pkgs wouldn't be that different from the actual RHEL8beta src.rpms ? Reminder : those are publicly available : ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rhel/rhel-8-beta/baseos/source/ (and same for AppStream repo, etc)
Cheers,
Hi Fabian,
On Sun, 2019-03-31 at 09:23 +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
Yes, that seems correct : no official sources have been pushed to us already, but we'll get all that on the new git.centos.org node (yeah, git.centos.org, reminder, will be migrated to pagure, normally in ~1w, waiting for final date and annoucing that in other thread)
Excellent!
But if someone wants to already start working on what's needed, I *guess* that final pkgs wouldn't be that different from the actual RHEL8beta src.rpms ? Reminder : those are publicly available : ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rhel/rhel-8-beta/baseos/source/ (and same for AppStream repo, etc)
I am looking right into the following:
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rhel/rhel-8-beta/baseos/source/Packages/redhat-indexhtml-8-4.el8.src.rpm
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rhel/rhel-8-beta/baseos/source/Packages/redhat-logos-80.5-1.el8.src.rpm
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/rhel/rhel-8-beta/baseos/source/Packages/redhat-release-8.0-0.34.el8.src.rpm
Thank you very much Fabian.
Best regards,
Hi,
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 15:45 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
Here is a proposal for browser's default page (centos-indexhtml):
https://gitlab.com/areguera/centos-indexhtml/tree/c8
I guess this is also required. Any comment, idea?
How do you all expect this component look on CentOS8?
Best regards,
I, for one, love it.
Can someone who has done this before (Cent7, 6?) comment as to whether all of the required assets are accounted for?
On 4/3/19 9:47 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 15:45 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
Here is a proposal for browser's default page (centos-indexhtml):
https://gitlab.com/areguera/centos-indexhtml/tree/c8
I guess this is also required. Any comment, idea?
How do you all expect this component look on CentOS8?
Best regards,
On 4/9/19 7:36 AM, Rich Bowen wrote:
I, for one, love it.
Can someone who has done this before (Cent7, 6?) comment as to whether all of the required assets are accounted for?
Can't really tell until we get a real GA SRPM to look at.
On 4/3/19 9:47 PM, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 15:45 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
Here is a proposal for browser's default page (centos-indexhtml):
https://gitlab.com/areguera/centos-indexhtml/tree/c8
I guess this is also required. Any comment, idea?
How do you all expect this component look on CentOS8?
On 04/04/2019 03:47, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 2019-03-07 at 15:45 -0500, Rich Bowen wrote:
What we know we need is anaconda artwork, and new desktop backgrounds to replace the current '7' themed stuff.
Here is a proposal for browser's default page (centos-indexhtml):
https://gitlab.com/areguera/centos-indexhtml/tree/c8
I guess this is also required. Any comment, idea?
How do you all expect this component look on CentOS8?
Best regards,
Hi Alain,
I see that you pushed plenty of things to your repositories hosted on gitlab, under your name. Would you mind if we'd switch to https://git.centos.org for CentOS 8 artwork related git repositories ? Actually looking with Johnny at the centos-logos and centos-indexhtml needed packages (and also some modified anaconda patches) and we were wondering if hosting all that on git.centos.org woudn't make much more sense, and also using ACO auth to let people submit PR, or direct push rights (depending on the Artwork SIG, etc)
Cheers,
Hi Fabian,
On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 16:08 +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
I see that you pushed plenty of things to your repositories hosted on gitlab, under your name. Would you mind if we'd switch to https://git.centos.org for CentOS 8 artwork related git repositories ?
It is my intention to switch to https://git.centos.org. I was just wondering about how to organize all different repos I have in Gitlab into a single one (https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork), or the best layout you would like to have in place for future development. Could you talk a bit about it, please. Just to drive forces in the right direction.
Actually looking with Johnny at the centos-logos and centos-indexhtml needed packages (and also some modified anaconda patches) and we were wondering if hosting all that on git.centos.org woudn't make much more sense, and also using ACO auth to let people submit PR, or direct push rights (depending on the Artwork SIG, etc)
Yes. Absolutely. git.centos.org is the way to go.
Cheers,
Hi Fabian,
On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 16:08 +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
Would you mind if we'd switch to https://git.centos.org for CentOS 8 artwork related git repositories ?
We started the switch already :) I pushed files related to brands, rnotes and backgrounds to https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork in a branch named c8, since the artwork is release-specific.
Looking at centos-logos and centos-indexhtml repos in git.centos.org didn't find any c8 branch or reference to RHEL8 GA sources to start rebranding them. Looked the link on the wiki FrontPage ( ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/) and can't find them there either. Could you (or someone else) point out the correct place to look for RHEL8 GA sources please?
Thanks,
On 10/05/2019 05:38, Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
Hi Fabian,
On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 16:08 +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
Would you mind if we'd switch to https://git.centos.org for CentOS 8 artwork related git repositories ?
We started the switch already :) I pushed files related to brands, rnotes and backgrounds to https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork in a branch named c8, since the artwork is release-specific.
Looking at centos-logos and centos-indexhtml repos in git.centos.org didn't find any c8 branch or reference to RHEL8 GA sources to start rebranding them. Looked the link on the wiki FrontPage ( ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/) and can't find them there either. Could you (or someone else) point out the correct place to look for RHEL8 GA sources please?
Thanks,
Hi Alain,
We don't get the sources for logos (for debranding reasons), and that was true for c7 too. But we had our own centos-logos in git, and I see that Johnny already pushed your mods there :
https://git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos/blob/c8/f/SPECS/centos-logos.spec#_...
My proposal would be (if that's fine for you) : - push some mock-ups/files, everything related to Artwork to https://git.centos.org/centos/Artwork - for rpm packages, like centos-logos or centos-indexhtml, you can (as sig-artwork lead) already push to specific branch, so you can already push with your user to c8-sig-artwork branch
From that point, you can ask PR (have to verify if one can open a PR against a specific branch, c8 in this case, as it *can't* be master) and Johnny can merge it, or just ask Johnny do it "manually" by "git checkout c8, git merge c8-sig-artwork, git push" :)
Would that kind of framework work for you ? Also, adding other people to sig-artwork group would be great for this ;-)
PS : thanks a *lot* for all the c8 artwork you've already worked on ! Awesome job ! :-)
On Mon, 2019-05-13 at 14:00 +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
We don't get the sources for logos (for debranding reasons), and that was true for c7 too.
That's understandable. However, one may wonder where to take the GA redhat-logos SRPM to start the rebranding process of GA centos-logos SRPM? Should it be based on the beta version of it?
But we had our own centos-logos in git, and I see that Johnny already pushed your mods there :
https://git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos/blob/c8/f/SPECS/centos-logos.spec#_...
Nices :) Thanks Johnny! I am looking right into it.
My proposal would be (if that's fine for you) :
- push some mock-ups/files, everything related to Artwork to
Here, should I use the lookaside_upload script from centos-git-common to upload binary files (e.g., images in PNG format), or just push them directly to it? I already pushed background images in PNG format but later reading the wiki page related to Sources found that no binary file should be uploaded to git.centos.org.
- for rpm packages, like centos-logos or centos-indexhtml, you can
(as sig-artwork lead) already push to specific branch, so you can already push with your user to c8-sig-artwork branch
That's exciting! There are some corrections I already would like to share.
From that point, you can ask PR (have to verify if one can open a PR against a specific branch, c8 in this case, as it *can't* be master) and Johnny can merge it, or just ask Johnny do it "manually" by "git checkout c8, git merge c8-sig-artwork, git push" :)
Would that kind of framework work for you ?
Yes. I found impressive the way you are separating binary files from plain-text files, to produce SRPMs right away, locally. It is a new way of doing things to me and need to reorganize a bit what I have to adapt it but that's just fine :)
Also, adding other people to sig-artwork group would be great for this ;-)
Well, there is nothing I want more than this. Soon I have work vacations and there are forces inside me pulling hard to update the wiki so to better describe the process of producing artwork for CentOS and hopefully help others to get involved. People don't have to be experts, nor fine art professional (although that's fine if they do ;) to propose artwork for CentOS, only have the intention of doing something for it and share it.
PS : thanks a *lot* for all the c8 artwork you've already worked on ! Awesome job ! :-)
Thanks Fabian! It is motivating to hear your positive feedback. Also to see how the work and effort driven inside the community is being considered by community leaders. I am glad to see how our corporate message is being honored:
The CentOS Project strongly believes that the power of an open source project is in the community. If the community gets broken, the project loses its fundamental reason-for-being. Code alone does not make open source, and community is made through people treating each other with respect.
Best regards,
Good afternoon everyone,
On Mon, 2019-05-13 at 14:00 +0200, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
- for rpm packages, like centos-logos or centos-indexhtml, you can
(as sig-artwork lead) already push to specific branch, so you can already push with your user to c8-sig-artwork branch
I made my first push to git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos.git repo. The goal was to update freeipa login screen background to look as shown in
https://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/Motifs/CentOS8/Sketch4?action=show#head-64eb...
Here is the push process I went through (comments are welcome):
- To clone the repo, didn't find any git:// or ssh:// URL in the web interface, only https://. So I cloned the repo using the https://. No issue here.
- Made changes inside the SOURCES directory, created a new tar.xz file and used the lookaside_upload script to upload it. No issue here either:
[al@localhost centos-logos]$ lookaside_upload -f SOURCES/centos-logos- 80.5.tar.xz -n centos-logos -b c8-sig-artwork [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Checking if file already uploaded [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Initialing new upload to lookaside [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> URL : https://git.centos.org [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Source to upload : SOURCES/centos- logos-80.5.tar.xz [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Package name: centos-logos [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> sha1sum: 19db430136555d7fc981a70e4925921414d250f9 [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Remote branch: c8-sig-artwork [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> ====== Trying to upload =======
####################################################################### ####################################################################### ############################################################## 100.0% File centos-logos-80.5.tar.xz size 25495564 CHECKSUM 19db430136555d7fc981a70e4925921414d250f9 stored OK [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Returned value: 0 [+] CentOS Lookaside upload tool -> Source should be available at https://git.centos.org/sources/centos-logos/c8-sig-artwork/19db430136555d7fc...
- Created a new local branch named c8-sig-artwork and updated the .centos-logos.metadata file to set the checksum of the new tar.xz source file. Added and committed the changes locally:
[al@localhost centos-logos]$ git add .centos-logos.metadata [al@localhost centos-logos]$ git commit .centos-logos.metadata
- When tried to push committed changes, found the following error:
[al@localhost centos-logos]$ git push --set-upstream origin c8-sig- artwork fatal: unable to access 'https://git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos.git/' : The requested URL returned error: 403
- Then edited the .git/config file to change the https:// URL for an equivalent one, using ssh://. The .git/config file looks like the following:
[al@localhost centos-logos]$ cat .git/config [core] repositoryformatversion = 0 filemode = true bare = false logallrefupdates = true [remote "origin"] # url = https://git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos.git url = ssh://git@git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos.git fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* [branch "c8"] remote = origin merge = refs/heads/c8 [branch "c8-sig-artwork"] remote = origin merge = refs/heads/c8-sig-artwork
- Tried to push again and voilà!
[al@localhost centos-logos]$ git push --set-upstream origin c8-sig- artwork Enumerating objects: 3, done. Counting objects: 100% (3/3), done. Delta compression using up to 2 threads Compressing objects: 100% (3/3), done. Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 702 bytes | 702.00 KiB/s, done. Total 3 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0) remote: Performing pre-check... remote: Pre-check results in remote: Welcome to repoSpanner 0.5+10.e4df0439a0f696f71c1f2fee285dc2022d435839.el7.infra, node centos01.rpms.fedoraproject.org remote: Delta resolving finished remote: Validating objects... remote: Objects validated remote: Finishing hook runner preparation... remote: Telling hook runner to grab new contents... remote: Running pre-receive hook... remote: Pre-receive hook done remote: Running update hook... remote: Update hook done remote: Syncing objects... remote: Objects synced remote: Requesting push... remote: Push results in remote: Running post-receive hook... remote: ERROR: [u'git', u'rev-list', u'3f59ee823e352be2fe7bf1651d27a3e663110319', u'^HEAD'] =-- 128 remote: remote: fatal: bad revision '^HEAD' remote: remote: Sending to redis to send commit notification emails remote: Post-receive hook done To ssh://git.centos.org/rpms/centos-logos.git * [new branch] c8-sig-artwork -> c8-sig-artwork Branch 'c8-sig-artwork' set up to track remote branch 'c8-sig-artwork' from 'origin'.
From that point, you can ask PR (have to verify if one can open a PR against a specific branch, c8 in this case, as it *can't* be master) and Johnny can merge it, or just ask Johnny do it "manually" by "git checkout c8, git merge c8-sig-artwork, git push" :)
Tried to make the PR using the web interface, but it takes forever trying to find something (repo branches I guess) when clicked the OpenPR button. Here is a screenshot:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JP7wehAfVGtOMBphyMRI9luQeNH3pfeL
Would that kind of framework work for you ?
The more I know it, the more I like it :)
Thanks!
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