Discuss September 2004

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Re: [Centos] migrating RH9 to CentOS-3
by John Newbigin 09 Sep '04

09 Sep '04

Rick Graves wrote: > John, > > I think the error that I encountered earlier this week > was because I am now blocked from accessing the main > CentOS mirror. > > At any rate, today I tried a different mirror, and at > least yum would run. > > I am still on the RH9 X install. > > I tried yum update, and got this: > > Resolving dependencies > .......Unable to satisfy dependencies > Package mozilla-psm needs mozilla = 37:1.4-3.0.18, > this is not available. > Package mozilla-psm needs mozilla-nss = 37:1.4-3.0.18, > this is not available. > > Can you shed anly light on this? There will be cases which need special handling. I think mozilla-psm is now included in the core mozilla package. If the new mozilla does not have the correct tags to tell yum that mozilla-psm can be removed then you have have to remove it manually beforehand. These are the kinds of tasks which we need documented. I was also thinking, it might be possible to create dummy packages which provide these kinds of dependencies so you can add the dummy module to your yum.conf and then it will be more automatic. There are others on the list that know more about yum than me and might have some ideas. John. > > Thanks, > > Rick > > > > > --- John Newbigin <jn(a)it.swin.edu.au> wrote: > > >>Rick Graves wrote: >> >> >>>John, >>> >>>I took another look at your migration page. I >> >>have >> >>>two questions. >>> >>>1) It seems the errata support only applies to >> >>moving >> >>>from RHEL3 to CentOS-3 -- correct? >> >>And RHEL2.1 to CentOS-2. >> >>>2) The Live Update option does not apply to moving >> >>off >> >>>RedHat 9, but does apply to moving off RedHat 7.2? >> >> >>Live update from RH9 -> CentOS-3.1 should work. See >>this page for details: >> > > http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=276534 > >>>I think I will try a Live Update on my test bench >> >>RH 9 >> >>>system. >>> >>>As you pointed out before, there is no big rush. >> >>On >> >>>the other hand, the value of this information >> >>dimishes >> >>>over time, as there is no point in making the >>>information available after everyone on the planet >> >>has >> >>>upgraded from the RedHat versions to something >> >>else. >>True. >> >>>Looking at your migration page again made me >> >>realize >> >>>that the Live Update option is high risk. >> >>Obviously, >> >>>someone who cares about they systems would choose >> >>Live >> >>>Update as a last choice. Clean new install on >> >>extra >> >>>hardware seems to be the best way to go. >> >>Indeed, but I have some old boxes running 7.2 which >>I have not got round >>to upgrading yet. If the procedure was as easy as >>running a single >>shell script I might be more inclined to update it. >> >>Did you look at my updated web page? (it was only >>updated yesterday). I >>have also started a diagram to show the distro >>family tree. Feedback is >>welcome. You will need >>http://www.gnome.org/projects/dia/ to view it. >> >>John. >> >> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Rick >>> >>>--- John Newbigin <jn(a)it.swin.edu.au> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Rick Graves wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>John, >>>>> >>>>>I did not hear back from you right away. Maybe >>>> >>>>doing >>>> >>>> >>>>>all the combinations is too big a job for one >>>> >>>>person. >>>> >>>> >>>>>It might work if we split them up. >>>> >>>>Details of each procedure should be split up but >> >>we >> >>>>need somewhere to >>>>collect all the info. I don't think we need to >> >>rush >> >>>>it. >>>> >>>>I started a web page to collect my ideas >>>> >>> >>> > http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/centos-2/migration.htm > >>>>Obviously it is just a start. I thinking a semi >>>>intelligent 'wizard' >>>>where you select your current OS and either >>>>acceptable upgrade methods >>>>OR target OS and it will spit out the procedure. >>>> >>>>Each procedure could have a forum where people can >>>>contribute feedback, >>>>like they do with the php manual. >>>> >>>>I think a plan of attack is to collect information >>>>while we wait for the >>>>new web site to appear. Hopefully that will >>>>minimize duplication of effort. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>I could do these two: >>>>> >>>>>RedHat 9 -> reinstall CentOS-3.1 >>>>>RedHat 9 -> live update to CentOS-3.1 >>>> >>>>I think this will be a popular procedure so it >> >>would >> >>>>be good to have >>>>this well documented. I know there is some >>>>information on this already >>>>though I have not tried it out. >>>> >>>>Another thing I might have a play with is a family >>>>tree. That might >>>>help people see the differences between versions. >>>> >>>>John. >>>> >>>> >>>>>I am volunteering for these because I already >> >>have >> >>>>>RedHat 9 and CentOS-3.1 CD's. >>>>> >>>>>The only rub is on Saturday I go on vacation, and >>>> >>>>at >>>> >>>> >>>>>the end of August I will be back to where I have >>>> >>>>my >>>> >>>> >>>>>computer junk. I could do those two in early >>>>>September. >>>>> >>>>>Any other volunteers for any of the other >>>>>combinations? >>>>> >>>>>My offer to work it all into the web site still >>>>>stands. >>>>> >>>>>Rick >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>--- Rick Graves <gravesricharde(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:13:59 -0700 (PDT) >>>>>>From: Rick Graves <gravesricharde(a)yahoo.com> >>>>>>Subject: Re: migration center >>>>>>To: centos(a)caosity.org >>>>>> >>>>>>John, >>>>>> >>>>>>Would you like to take a first crack at the text >>>> >>>>for >>>> >>>> >>>>>>the migration center? You could then run it by >>>> >>>>this >>>> >>>> >>>>>>group. >>>>>> >>>>>>If we get something that is good enough not to >> >>get >> >>>>>>shot down here, I will work it into the web >> >>site. >> >>>>>>If we decide to go with separate sites, the text >>>>>>could >>>>>>just be copied over, so there would be no wasted >>>>>>effort. >>>>>> >>>>>>Rick >>>>>> >>>>>>--- centos-request(a)caosity.org wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Message: 8 >>>>>>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:28:57 +1000 >>>>>>From: John Newbigin <jn(a)it.swin.edu.au> >>>>>>To: centos(a)caosity.org >>>>>>Subject: Re: [Centos] suggestions for CentOS >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>... >>>>>> >>>>>>I think another thing we should have is a >> > === message truncated === > > > -- John Newbigin - Computer Systems Officer School of Information Technology Swinburne University of Technology Melbourne, Australia http://www.it.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin

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Maintainers and security updates
by Michael Rock 09 Sep '04

09 Sep '04

Hi, can someone tell how many are behind maintaining the site and converting security and regular RHEL fixes for Centos-3? I see the last round of security updates for RHEL were turned out in a day which is impressive. Trying to get an idea if Centos has alot of community support and being maintained by more than one person. I am not confident enough yet in building my own updates. I am another RH 7.1/8.0 admin that labored over the decision to go with Fedora Legacy 6 months for these servers only to find mailings to stop without any notice. Since it seemed awfully quiet for a time I checked their website and found support suspended for these version due to lack of community involvement. So doing a little more investigating this time to see if the community is really into the project before settling down with a solution. thx __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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Updates? Last samba package from RedHat? Cd images for update 3?
by Alex Georgiev 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Dear Centos-3 Maintainers, there are several new (september) packages from redhat for RHEL3 especially https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2004-430.html (samba 3.0.6). Perhaps these new packages are not security updates, but .... I am having problems printing in current samba-3.0.4-6.3E which I believe shall be resolved with the new samba. Do you guys intend to rebuild last redhat updates, or I should do it on my own? Also, do you intend to make new CD images with the new RHEL update 3? This will make installing centos on SATA machines possible! Thank you very much for your efforts and work. Best regards, A. Georgiev

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Centos3.1-U3 ETA ?
by Beau Henderson 08 Sep '04

08 Sep '04

Just curious, haven't seen much discussion on this or anything in the news page. Is U3 being built yet ? Might we expect to see a test release sometime soon ? -- Beau Henderson JustManaged.com - Affordable Linux Administration & Security Services.

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CentOS-2 errata
by John Newbigin 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded the the centos mirror: RHSA-2004:440-01 An updated lha package fixes security vulnerability Files available: lha-1.00-17.3.i386.rpm More details are available from the RedHat web site at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches is to run: # yum update -- John Newbigin - Computer Systems Officer School of Information Technology Swinburne University of Technology Melbourne, Australia http://www.it.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin

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CentOS-2 errata
by John Newbigin 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

The following errata for CentOS-2 have been built and uploaded the the centos mirror: RHSA-2004:408-01 Updated mod_ssl package fixes minor vulnerability Files available: mod_ssl-2.8.12-6.i386.rpm More details are available from the RedHat web site at https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh21as-errata.html The easy way to make sure you are up to date with all the latest patches is to run: # yum update -- John Newbigin - Computer Systems Officer School of Information Technology Swinburne University of Technology Melbourne, Australia http://www.it.swin.edu.au/staff/jnewbigin

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php-snmp
by Dan 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Hello list. Anyone have a php rpm with snmp enabled or a php-nsmp rpm? I need to build some php pages and would like to use the snmp function that are built in. If there is another way to enable it by not using one of these rpm's that would be great too. TIA Dan

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OT: firewalls
by donavan nelson 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

What is everyone using for a firewall? I'm currently using www.astaro.com but their recent releases have soured me on ASL as a practical solution on my hardware (1.2MHz Athlon, 30G, and 256M). I only have 4 computers going through the firewall wall but it's consistently at 50% cpu load. There is very little network traffic (<10k bits per second on the wan connection, < 40k bits per second between other internal lans (I have 4 internal lans and a wan)) Basically I'm using it for: packet filtering, masq, port forwarding, IDS, dns proxy (only if my internal DNS servers have failed) smtp proxy smtp virus protection smtp spam protection http proxy (caching) http virus protection http url monitoring (via Cobain) the firewall also monitors a bunch of statistics, etc. I'm looking for something that is installed, configured and runs. I don't want to be tweaking this parameter of postfix, that parameter of the smtp virus protection, etc. I want something that just works that I don't need to play with except for new rules, etc. I'll pay a reasonable price for a package that I can test to verify suitable performance (I'm not a commercial operation, this is just for my toys). At the moment, I'm looking at Gibraltar. But the community seems small. I haven't downloaded it yet but I'm considering it an option for this round of firewall evaluation. Any other suggestions for inclusion? BTW, anything like smoothwall that allows wide open outbound connections and doesn't support a box with 5 network cards off the CD is not a viable candidate. Thanks much all, .dn

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Autologons
by Dominic Iadicicco 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Hello all, Anyone know how to do autologon's in Linux console mode? Or maybe a web site that has directions that does. Thanks all Dominic Iadicicco _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enter now. http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush

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Re: instructions for mirrors
by Rick Graves 07 Sep '04

07 Sep '04

Lance, > We need to change the instructions for becoming a > mirror as it wont be > possible to populate their mirror before telling us > about it , we will > need to request an access ip address first. I updated the "notes for mirrors" page. I added a new line, about 5 paragraphs down from the top. I do not fully understand what you wrote, so I followed your wording as closely as I could. Please take a look, and let me know if my wording needs clarification. Rick

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