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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

> What was the problem with audacious again ? # yum install audacious ... Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package audacious.i386 0:1.3.2-5.el5.rf set to be updated --> Processing Dependency: audacious-plugins >= 1.3.0 for package: audacious ... --> Missing Dependency: audacious-plugins >= 1.3.0 is needed by package audacious-1.3.2-5.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge) ... Error: Missing Dependency: audacious-plugins >= 1.3.0 is needed by package audacious-1.3.2-5.el5.rf.i386 (rpmforge) > We publish buildlogs. There is no reason to find it out > yourself. I also do not build from the SRPM, I build from > the SPEC file directly, so if an SRPM is published, it is > because it build fine. I also build from the SPEC + tarball. I took them from RF and... ...they don't build! When they *did* build, it was maybe 2007. Now it's 2009 and EL5.3 and... it doesn't build :-( > Oh, I agree completely. So when are you going to help us? When I'll have a better brain able of a better time management for my life :-( > If a SRPMS builds under CentOS 5.0 and it doesn't > under 5.3,then this package is broekn. > > Ok, you're making it yourself very hard now, but I > will accept scripts/tools that can verify this. > I don't think any other repository is > even doing this though. Now you're wrong. You must be wrong. Say, TUV releases EL5.3. I am *sure* they rebuild *all* the packages, not only whatever was affected on the way from 5.2->5.3. This is what *each* and every repo should be doing when EL releases a point update: to rebuild EVERYTHING, just to check it still works. See, this is why I am not a QA manager anywhere: people would commit mass suicide under my rule :-) > That's a strange position. So you complain because you see > the flaws, but you only want to help when there are no flaws > and in fact there is nothing to fix. That's malicious. OK, you're within your rights. > Wait. So you blame me for all these things that you don't > care about for your own repository ? :-) I don't say I don't care. This is my first repo ever, so it *might* be broken already. I'd say it's *likely* to be broken! Hey, I am not Dag! (The last time I checked my ID it carried a different name.) > Can you give me an example of an SRPM that doesn't build. > Because we have buildlogs of everything, so everything at > least once build. Probably, that comix thing. I only tried to build from SPEC + tarball, because these are the *real* sources, right? Then, audacious should be rebuilt to spit out those plugins too. > I don't see the point in trying to rebuild everything for > RHEL5.3, RHEL5.4. That's BECAUSE YOUR REPO SAYS "FOR EL5", AND THE CURRENT VERSION IS 5.3. You can't claim compatibility when no check is made!!! > So you are just lazy and you want me to do your dirty work, > unless it is something simple, then you do it yourself. > Regardless you prefer to complain :) *My* dirty work? (Dirty?!) > It is not. Everything that works, works. The things > that do not work, can be fixed. #define _it_works _installs_from_RPM & _runs & _rebuilds_from_SRPM & _rebuilds_from_SPEC_n_tarball > Can you please list them. I like statistics. I can't, because only a freak would try to check 7,600 packages on his own laptop! (I doubt I'd even have enough disk space.) Cheers, R-C (C'est la vie, I know./) __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

> >> The audacious package is willing to wait that long > :) > > > > Nope, because I've built it *for myself*, > > i.e. in my repo. > > And was your patch rejected from the places you are > complaining about? There. Is. No. Question. About. Any. Patch. When you build audacious from SPEC + tarball, it spits out audacious + audacious_plugins, both as RPMs and as SRPMs (actually, it spits around 15 plugins RPMs). RPMforge misses the plugins, that's all. Probably just triggering a rebuild would fix it all. Instead of talking for ages about patches, what builds and what doesn't, and why "better services" would need pay etc. maybe someone (Dag?) could have triggered the rebuild of audacious for 100 times in the meantime. Truly yours, R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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Re: [CentOS] How to change Disk sequence on DELL R900 CENTOS 5.3?
by mcclnx mcc 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Thank you for answer. I change /etc/fstab and using UUID instead of LABEL. after reboot, UUID did NOT change disk sequence back to what I want. Boot device original /dev/sda1, it still /dev/sdc1 NO change. --- 09/6/29 (一)，Joseph L. Casale <JCasale(a)activenetwerx.com> 寫道： > 寄件者: Joseph L. Casale <JCasale(a)activenetwerx.com> > 主旨: Re: [CentOS] How to change Disk sequence on DELL R900 CENTOS 5.3? > 收件者: "'CentOS mailing list'" <centos(a)centos.org> > 日期: 2009年6月29日,一,上午2:22 > >how to change sequence back? > > Rather than chase that never ending loop, maybe now is the > time > to look into an fstab populated by UUID. > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ 付費才容量無上限？Yahoo!奇摩電子信箱2.0免費給你，信件永遠不必刪！ http://tw.mg0.mail.yahoo.com/dc/landing

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[OT] Batch Job Scheduler/Manager
by Mauriat Miranda 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Hi. Looking for suggestions/ideas. I have pretty loose requirements at this point, but I am looking for a tool (or set of tools) where I can automate and control a large group of tasks by a basic web front end. I have a series of scripts that do various conversions of data or media, as well as analysis and I want to be able check their status, see if they completed or if they failed. Then possibly react or setup alternate jobs if they passed or failed, etc. - some basic logic. I want to avoid building something for this. But if there already exists a tool(s) that I could tailor that would be good too. Something Perl would be perfect, but PHP could be made to work. Free or not would be acceptable. Thanks for any ideas. -Mauriat

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Re: [CentOS] Fortran90 and 77 on CentOS
by Marcelo M. Garcia 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Sorin Srbu wrote: > Hi all, > > Is anybody here using Fortran90 and Fortran77 on their CentOS-machine(s)? > > If so, did you get that from a repo or something? One of our PhD-students > needs a software that requires the Fortran compilers mentioned in order to > make the sources for our i7-machines. > > The Fortran stuff that is available to me is from the standard CentOS repos, > as well as Rpmforge and EPEL repos, from which I got gcc43-fortran and some > more dependencies and and such. But as far as I can tell, this is not going > to work. > > This is all new territory to me, to have to compile stuff... Please let me > know if this is off-topic and should be taken elsewhere. > > Thanks for any information. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS(a)centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Hi Intel has "non-commercial software download" with FORTRAN, C/C++, MKL, etc: http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/non-commercial-software-download/ Regards mg.

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Fortran90 and 77 on CentOS
by Sorin Srbu 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Hi all, Is anybody here using Fortran90 and Fortran77 on their CentOS-machine(s)? If so, did you get that from a repo or something? One of our PhD-students needs a software that requires the Fortran compilers mentioned in order to make the sources for our i7-machines. The Fortran stuff that is available to me is from the standard CentOS repos, as well as Rpmforge and EPEL repos, from which I got gcc43-fortran and some more dependencies and and such. But as far as I can tell, this is not going to work. This is all new territory to me, to have to compile stuff... Please let me know if this is off-topic and should be taken elsewhere. Thanks for any information. -- BW, Sorin ----------------------------------------------------------- # Sorin Srbu [Sysadmin, Systems Engineer] # Dept of Medicinal Chemistry, Phone: +46 (0)18-4714482 >3 signals> GSM # Div of Org Pharm Chem, Mobile: +46 (0)701-718023 # Box 574, Uppsala University, Fax: +46 (0)18-4714482 # SE-751 23 Uppsala, Sweden Visit: BMC, Husargatan 3, D5:512b # Web: http://www.orgfarm.uu.se ----------------------------------------------------------- # () ASCII ribbon campaign - Against html E-mail # /\ # # MotD follows: # CentOS: Enterprise Linux for the people.

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

> Anyway, as I said previously, I would rather see the CentOS > Project concentrate on the core product and do a really good > job on that (i.e, a move closer to the old 4 week release lag > than the current 10 week release lag), and I would much rather > see this than effort diluted by taking on a contrib repo. Right: http://beranger.org/v3/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/useless_chart_r… After all, I love (some) charts from time to time. R-C __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

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Re: [CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag
by Radu-Cristian FOTESCU 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

> I Can not speak for others, but the only time i have > seen Karanbir be stern with anyone is when they do > deserve it. Well, I've read him saying in various ways and on several occasions something that would equate "RTFM", only it was put in such an offensive way that even myself, as an external reader, I felt compassion for the poor user who was asking an innocent question just to be slapped over the face. > I have no idea what your deal is though with going > after anyone and everybody. Do you just love attacking > people in gerernal? Of course. I also like killing kittens and sodomizing kids. If telling to someone that there are issues with "his" repo (that was RPMforge and Dag is #1 when comes to RF) is an attack, then your world and my world are different, and *your* world is broken. Basically, I have been answered that I cannot ask for consistency for something that's free unless I help fixing the issues. Fair enough. But then, if mentioning that KB's repo for EL5 is still having *everything* in testing (the repo for EL4 is not in testing, and it even wasn't in testing a few years ago when I was using it) is still an attack... ...whereas KB's *offending* and *despising* answer (because *this* is how he usually replies!) basically says that I am an idiot who shouldn't use his repo (only that he wasn't using these exact words, so he's technically "politically correct" in the way he's telling people that they're morons that should shut the fsck up) is not an attack, huh? Well, then raise a statue to the beloved KB, because I'm gonna shut the fuck up. This is not a community, and I know of several people who use ScientificLinux not because it's better, but because on their mailing list, their developers *don't* imply that people are morons when they spit an answer to the list. But now, you're right: should I have the chance to meet KB in person, I'd punch him in the face with an infinite pleasure. R-C __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

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Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options
by Sorin Srbu 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

>-----Original Message----- >From: centos-bounces(a)centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf >Of Sorin Srbu >Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:26 AM >To: 'CentOS mailing list' >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Web photo gallery options > >>FYI, gallery2 is available in EPEL for EL-5. > >I used the info available at >http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rhel-fedora-centos-linux-enable-epel-repo/ to >add the EPEL-repo. Replying to myself... Googled some and found that Gallery2 is most probably in the Fedora development repo. Now to find how I add this repo to CentOS.. -- /Sorin

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Playing with php 5.3.0
by Michael A. Peters 01 Jul '09

01 Jul '09

Even though I do not recommend it for production yet, I packaged and am playing with php 5.3.0 - src.rpm at http://www.clfsrpm.net/php53/ (needed epel to build) Other than the suhosin loadable module messing up pear's ability to do anything, initial tests show it working fairly well. Looks like the enchant module is a nogo on CentOS (aspell too old) but in the few hours of testing, none of my code (yet) is broken in it. There are some warnings in the log files w/ respect to squirrelmail and setting time zone (stock centos squirrelmail), I'll have to look into that, and the php src.rpm there actually has a minor bug - it should obsolete/provide pecl-Fileinfo, but I'll wait for suhosin to come up with their patch to core php before I bother to update. Anyway, it's there for anyone who feels like playing with 5.3.0 to see what breaks, you just to rebuild the src.rpm.

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