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CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 122, Issue 2
by centos-announce-request＠centos.org 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

Send CentOS-announce mailing list submissions to centos-announce(a)centos.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to centos-announce-request(a)centos.org You can reach the person managing the list at centos-announce-owner(a)centos.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CentOS-announce digest..." Today's Topics: 1. CESA-2015:0771 Important CentOS 7 thunderbird Security Update (Johnny Hughes) 2. CEEA-2015:0717 CentOS 7 tzdata Enhancement Update (Johnny Hughes) 3. CEBA-2015:0769 CentOS 6 libvirt BugFix Update (Johnny Hughes) 4. CEBA-2015:0772 CentOS 6 openssl BugFix Update (Johnny Hughes) 5. CESA-2015:0771 Important CentOS 7 thunderbird Security Update (Johnny Hughes) 6. CESA-2015:0771 Important CentOS 5 thunderbird Security Update (Johnny Hughes) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:33:26 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:0771 Important CentOS 7 thunderbird Security Update Message-ID: <20150401143326.GA46610(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:0771 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0771.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: 7ebfced7a86fc0807143f90dbf4ca28fdd63b38d2cfe442fffbc8ca3d9395394 thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm Source: 61228bdaf11280dbf4a5f9360fc668b3460f5f9cc8ec981a3efb808384207d86 thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el7.centos.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 14:33:03 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEEA-2015:0717 CentOS 7 tzdata Enhancement Update Message-ID: <20150401143303.GA46517(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2015:0717 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2015-0717.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: 818c1d17d5adb9ab3d6757430050e8070e06e2af4ee54a1d8bdfb0cb460722ee tzdata-2015b-1.el7.noarch.rpm 71e6f2749ec0de934123278410f5df6209a4190d6e11081b47704930818abed5 tzdata-java-2015b-1.el7.noarch.rpm Source: 8ec69e7d73b7f0cd4cbef055142adf3c5098070bfdb2720e7c6a94614c66ab63 tzdata-2015b-1.el7.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:37:08 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2015:0769 CentOS 6 libvirt BugFix Update Message-ID: <20150401133708.GA41162(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2015:0769 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2015-0769.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 4ad971b924283fbc82dae8448ee1b66ecbc848ef04db26678c076ce7212f2170 libvirt-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.i686.rpm 2c11678643a4b451f39126892d4760c819e2d10e17b7665438e5535710ad0821 libvirt-client-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.i686.rpm 23285525bead07faa02d923eb7524ae5f5869b1dd87c4a1d3c44c9b3c3ed4102 libvirt-devel-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.i686.rpm b04c0f7edbd1554eb510efc2974a7b4ba5207230c5b6697433eafbd677c19fd1 libvirt-python-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.i686.rpm x86_64: 1c73ef3ecea2073fe7159f92c475c1332dbd54824897382304f520c8a33aed28 libvirt-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.x86_64.rpm 2c11678643a4b451f39126892d4760c819e2d10e17b7665438e5535710ad0821 libvirt-client-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.i686.rpm 653aa707dbcf4df2bba46c2324d5cbb98354d1b987eb67a7b1d26bea63e37601 libvirt-client-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.x86_64.rpm 23285525bead07faa02d923eb7524ae5f5869b1dd87c4a1d3c44c9b3c3ed4102 libvirt-devel-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.i686.rpm 0756926b4fd386e5ffc83182ef87cefc1aa9430c72514480ba6157cdc4a0f9b9 libvirt-devel-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.x86_64.rpm 8a67dfcba8fe5f0cca99698b19241b84b31167ecb233644e70b81461e219981a libvirt-lock-sanlock-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.x86_64.rpm 90c1e5d9057e403e2f351f0448c564e6e66958e7d8d0a8306854fb65fafc29f7 libvirt-python-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.x86_64.rpm Source: 4a3e98c3a2c0e26729f92c5a5b14df9eb01ca9e2b485a512598a0ecce653ac30 libvirt-0.10.2-46.el6_6.4.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 13:37:32 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2015:0772 CentOS 6 openssl BugFix Update Message-ID: <20150401133732.GA41279(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2015:0772 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2015-0772.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: 41659461dfbc5f9ad6f32bf6d01385d0612829409a357e38aa060365123e7052 openssl-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.i686.rpm c65591768da26f73430303389ef04d3e16f5fbad641ff6e5373cfea18172edec openssl-devel-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.i686.rpm 91af1b70c6cb34e72b607251fcbe1b7deaefb62305f880793b8e473222e77b97 openssl-perl-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.i686.rpm 450af614f5c7e43c3886f8157daa7562ff0262fb58935a3d25b2dedb36a6a2c7 openssl-static-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.i686.rpm x86_64: 41659461dfbc5f9ad6f32bf6d01385d0612829409a357e38aa060365123e7052 openssl-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.i686.rpm 61c7f512a888cf7b6e10077a834cdc6068ff2b5ef6ff3f46bc711d7280c9b97b openssl-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.x86_64.rpm c65591768da26f73430303389ef04d3e16f5fbad641ff6e5373cfea18172edec openssl-devel-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.i686.rpm f3f37c0e41241e075e337191221972db1d30a83e26a02308bf7e0a11adf205c7 openssl-devel-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.x86_64.rpm a69ab8b475b329367440c62abe428b4ea99ee66deea2c49c870f326e47ddab25 openssl-perl-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.x86_64.rpm 9e052cb778422d1353469c33f00790c2bd5a153882d90eca8925e58cbe069f3f openssl-static-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.x86_64.rpm Source: e7c3b41c56fd2e7a3816d94623f9cbe57b0f1539f84032672f0e48e75e9e3a6b openssl-1.0.1e-30.el6.8.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 16:12:27 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:0771 Important CentOS 7 thunderbird Security Update Message-ID: <20150401161227.GA10302(a)n04.lon1.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:0771 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0771.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64: 7ebfced7a86fc0807143f90dbf4ca28fdd63b38d2cfe442fffbc8ca3d9395394 thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el7.centos.x86_64.rpm Source: 61228bdaf11280dbf4a5f9360fc668b3460f5f9cc8ec981a3efb808384207d86 thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el7.centos.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 18:06:44 +0000 From: Johnny Hughes <johnny(a)centos.org> To: centos-announce(a)centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:0771 Important CentOS 5 thunderbird Security Update Message-ID: <20150401180644.GA4611(a)chakra.karan.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:0771 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-0771.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386: b923092c5411b96e3732b1a9a3491a43fa9ded362b2dfb91a8280447ac7c899d thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el5.centos.i386.rpm x86_64: bc45f9ffc81cdee944d9616d921277f73841be88edc06ddb336cf93473ad0a69 thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm Source: b77452b4fdd245dcc599fba4b0624a3ce8ab1dc4c8ea41544079cb9b8768b06b thunderbird-31.6.0-1.el5.centos.src.rpm -- Johnny Hughes CentOS Project { http://www.centos.org/ } irc: hughesjr, #centos(a)irc.freenode.net ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce(a)centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce End of CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 122, Issue 2 ***********************************************

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Centos7: start job running for dev/mapper-centos\x2dhome.device
by johan.vermeulen7＠telenet.be 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

Hello All, I have this Centos7 machine that"s dualbooted with Win7. It's Centos7 with Mate desktop. The upgrade to Centos7.1 was interrupted. I ssh-d into the machine and finished it manualy, by issuing the command package-cleanup --cleandupes and yum update Now I' missing some packages, after some reïnstalling, I can boot again. However, I can not log in. EM:apr 02 13:58:25 jvanbaekel lightdm[1596]: ** (process:2903): WARNING **: Failed to open CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files So far I was not able to find out which pakages I'm missing for lightdm. Can anyone help me with this? greetings, Johan

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os-release file doesn't match upstream?
by Stephen Harris 02 Apr '15

02 Apr '15

On a fully patched C7 machine... % cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS Linux release 7.1.1503 (Core) % cat /etc/os-release NAME="CentOS Linux" VERSION="7 (Core)" ID="centos" ID_LIKE="rhel fedora" VERSION_ID="7" PRETTY_NAME="CentOS Linux 7 (Core)" ANSI_COLOR="0;31" CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:centos:centos:7" HOME_URL="https://www.centos.org/" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.centos.org/" CENTOS_MANTISBT_PROJECT="CentOS-7" CENTOS_MANTISBT_PROJECT_VERSION="7" REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT="centos" REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT_VERSION="7" In particular note the version ID is 7 On a RedHat machine: % cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 7.1 (Maipo) % cat /etc/os-release NAME="Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server" VERSION="7.1 (Maipo)" ID="rhel" ID_LIKE="fedora" VERSION_ID="7.1" PRETTY_NAME="Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server 7.1 (Maipo)" ANSI_COLOR="0;31" CPE_NAME="cpe:/o:redhat:enterprise_linux:7.1:GA:server" HOME_URL="https://www.redhat.com/" BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/" REDHAT_BUGZILLA_PRODUCT="Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7" REDHAT_BUGZILLA_PRODUCT_VERSION=7.1 REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT="Red Hat Enterprise Linux" REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT_VERSION="7.1" Here the version ID is 7.1; different to CentOS. Is this a bug or is it deliberate? -- rgds Stephen

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Centos 7 License???
by David A. De Graaf 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Today I did a yum upgrade to my kvm'ized Centos 7 test machine (perhaps a bad day to do such a thing) and received new kernel vmlinuz-3.10.0-229.1.2.el7.x86_64, among many other things. When I rebooted, I was asked to confirm (or renew, or some such) my license. My LICENSE ??? I was booting in text mode and the actions required were a) unfamiliar, and b) hard to understand. As I recall, I had to read the EULA - a worrisomely Microsoftian demand - and accept it. Of course, the terms were pretty benign. Then I had to continue. I can't remember the exact language. Of course, now when I reboot, all this cruft is gone. Is this a cute April Fool joke? If not, WTF is going on? -- David A. De Graaf DATIX, Inc. Hendersonville, NC dad(a)datix.us www.datix.us A: Because people read from top to bottom Q: Why is top posting bad?

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SEmodule dependency hell.
by James B. Byrne 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

I want you all to see what I went through trying to simply reassign (unsuccessfully) the context of a well-known port. To the best of my ability to recall none of the packages mentioned below are even installed on the host in question. Why are these dependices preventing me from removing a disused SELinux policy. I have done exactly that, reassign port contexts, in the past without encountering this situation. So it has to be a recent development. I am not against SELinux. We use it extensively. But this is not security it is simply BS. It is stuff like this that causes people to say just turn selinux off altogether. semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: awstats's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_log_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r awstats semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: bugzilla's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r bugzilla semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: cobbler's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r cobbler semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: collectd's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r collectd semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: git's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r git semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: gpg's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_sys_content_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r gpg semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: mediawiki's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r mediawiki semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: munin's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r munin semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: nagios's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r nagios semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: w3c's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: webadm's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r webadm semodule -r apache libsepol.print_missing_requirements: webalizer's global requirements were not met: type/attribute httpd_sys_content_t (No such file or directory). libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbox: Link packages failed (No such file or directory). semodule: Failed! semodule -r webalizer semodule -r apache libsepol.context_from_record: type httpd_openshift_script_exec_t is not defined libsepol.context_from_record: could not create context structure libsepol.context_from_string: could not create context structure libsepol.sepol_context_to_sid: could not convert unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_openshift_script_exec_t:s0 to sid invalid context unconfined_u:object_r:httpd_openshift_script_exec_t:s0 libsemanage.semanage_install_active: setfiles returned error code 1. semodule: Failed! semodule -R [root@xnet241 ~]# semanage port -d -t http_port_t -p tcp 80 /usr/sbin/semanage: Port tcp/80 is defined in policy, cannot be deleted -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3

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How to decrypt rootpassword form kickstart file
by Jegadeesh Kumar 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Hi Team, I have the kick start file where my root password is store like # Root password rootpw --iscrypted $1$1SItJOAg$UM9n7lRFK1/OCs./rgQtQ/ # System authorization information auth --useshadow --passalgo=sha512 Is there any way to decry pt the password and get it as plain text. I know single user mode works but my case it in remote site. Thanks, Jegadeesh

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Release 7 1503 includes samba-common.i686 (breaks multilib installs)
by Benjamin Ash 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Hi, Unfortunately we are getting multilib issues with the latest release of CentOS 7. It seems that samba-common.i686 conflicts with samba-common.x86_64, and therefore Yum multilib support. Is this expected? Thanks, -ben Transaction check error: file /usr/bin/net conflicts between attempted installs of samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.i686 and samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.x86_64 file /usr/bin/pdbedit conflicts between attempted installs of samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.i686 and samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.x86_64 file /usr/bin/profiles conflicts between attempted installs of samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.i686 and samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.x86_64 file /usr/bin/smbcontrol conflicts between attempted installs of samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.i686 and samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.x86_64 file /usr/bin/testparm conflicts between attempted installs of samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.i686 and samba-common-0:4.1.12-21.el7_1.x86_64 -- Benjamin Ash | Technical Manager - Intelerad RHCE +1-514-931-6222 ext. 7311 | bash(a)intelerad.com Website <http://www.intelerad.com/> | Twitter<http://www.twitter.com/intelerad> | LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/intelerad-medical-systems> | Blog <http://intelerad-insider.com/> -- This email or any attachments may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the addressees. Any use, redistribution, disclosure, or reproduction of this information, except as intended, is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and remove all copies of the message, including any attachments.

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Thanks for 7.1
by Nux! 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Just wanted to say "Thanks!" to the CentOS team for their efforts to put out a 7.1 release. Upgraded several systems, so far smooth sailing. Good job! -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro

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tc seems to have no effect on the NIC's
by Boris Epstein 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Hello all, We have installed this network testing environment: https://github.com/facebook/augmented-traffic-control which seems pretty nice overall. It allows you to artificially degrade your network performance by issuing tc commands to directly affect your networking. I have it set up on two CentOS 6 machines - one a Dell server, one a VirtualBox VM. The tc syntax seems OK, it seems to all make sense - only it seems to have no effect whatsoever on the actual network performance. Hence the question: is there a known issue with tc? Am I perhaps missing some kernel modules, or do I perhaps now have some kernel parameters set correctly? Any insight will be helpful. Thanks in advance, Cheers, Boris.

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Unexplained size difference with CentOS 7 (1503) -01 install media
by Greg Bailey 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

In the process of updating my copy of the CentOS 7 (1503) -01 install media, I notice that it's ~70MB larger than the image that it's replacing: $ rsync mirrors.kernel.org::centos/7.1.1503/isos/x86_64/*DVD*.iso -rw-r--r-- 4310695936 2015/03/31 17:05:50 CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1503-01.iso -rw-r--r-- 4236247040 2015/03/28 12:15:26 CentOS-7-x86_64-DVD-1503.iso But when I compare sizes using "du" on the mounted ISO files, I can't see any discernible difference: Original CentOS 7 (1503) DVD: $ du -ks /centos7/* 1 /centos7/CentOS_BuildTag 6148 /centos7/EFI 1 /centos7/EULA 18 /centos7/GPL 79428 /centos7/images 73378 /centos7/isolinux 281423 /centos7/LiveOS 3752743 /centos7/Packages 12696 /centos7/repodata 2 /centos7/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-7 2 /centos7/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-Testing-7 3 /centos7/TRANS.TBL Revised CentOS 7 (1503) -01 DVD with centos-release fix: $ du -ks /centos7-01/* 1 /centos7-01/CentOS_BuildTag 6148 /centos7-01/EFI 1 /centos7-01/EULA 18 /centos7-01/GPL 79428 /centos7-01/images 73378 /centos7-01/isolinux 281423 /centos7-01/LiveOS 3752745 /centos7-01/Packages 12696 /centos7-01/repodata 2 /centos7-01/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-7 2 /centos7-01/RPM-GPG-KEY-CentOS-Testing-7 3 /centos7-01/TRANS.TBL Seems like a large delta in ISO size for not much of a change in content. Any ideas? -Greg

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