Johnny Hughes a écrit :

This implementation changes the way pango, cario, and a new thing called xul-runner interact with several gnome things ... it is also tied to a newer version of nss ... which requires other system components to be rebuilt.

I gave it a go anyway, and the result is very convincing. I grabbed an SRPM from FC8, and here's the results:

BuildRequires: hunspell(-devel), xulrunner(-devel), xulrunner-devel-unstable.

Requires: hunspell, xulrunner.

I'm using XFCE, not GNOME, so it didn't get more complicated than that.

The only thing I had to adjust was commenting every occurrence of Fedora's system-bookmarks package, which is both a build and install requirement, in firefox3.spec.

I have a personal checklist of unnerving bugs for Firefox 1.5.x, Firefox 2.x, Seamonkey 1.1.x and Opera, which more or less forced me to install at least two web browsers (Seamonkey and Opera) to be able to use all my favourite web sites and web apps. Things like writing a very long page in a SPIP interface, launching a video on Youtube and immediately pressing the Back button, visiting the badly scripted site of the French employment agency, and so on.

Firefox 3.0beta passes all these tests without any single crash or other misbehaviour, so I just adopted it and got rid of the other browsers. Guess I'll install it on our production machines this week.

Funny thing: the development version isn't called Firefox, but Minefield, as a reminder of the "beta" quality of the software. The Firefox developers have a nice sense of humor. Check out what you see when you click on the "About" menu item:

http://www.kikinovak.net/images/minefield.png

Cheers,

Niki

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 11:11 +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:

Niki Kovacs a écrit :

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I gave it a go anyway, and the result is very convincing.

I forgot: if anyone wants to try out Firefox 3.0beta without the hassle of building/adapting it for CentOS, feel free to use the RPM from my repo. To add it, create and edit /etc/yum.repos.d/kikinovak.repo:

--8<------------------------------------------------------------ [kikinovak] enabled=1 priority=set_your_priority_here name=CentOS-$releasever - kikinovak baseurl=http://kikinovak.free.fr/centos/$releasever/kikinovak/$basearch gpgcheck=0 --8<------------------------------------------------------------

And I'm sorry, I only have i386 available, since there's no x86_64 architecture around.

I tried to get and test this for you, and me. Can't access the repo.

# uname -a Linux centos501.homegroannetworking 2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Wed Mar 5 11:36:49 EST 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/kikinovak [kikinovak] enabled=0 priority=99 name=CentOS-$releasever - kikinovak baseurl=http://kikinovak.free.fr/centos/$releasever/kikinovak/$basearch #baseurl=http://kikinovak.free.fr/centos/5/kikinovak/i386/ gpgcheck=0 protect=0

Tried adding slash to the end of your original baseurl and added and tried the commented hardcoded URL. NG.

# yum --enablerepo=kikinovak list Loading "changelog" plugin Loading "downloadonly" plugin Loading "installonlyn" plugin Loading "kernel-module" plugin Loading "skip-broken" plugin Loading "fedorakmod" plugin Loading "repolist" plugin Loading "fastestmirror" plugin Loading "tsflags" plugin Loading "allowdowngrade" plugin Loading "priorities" plugin

Error getting repository data for kikinovak, repository not found

Any thoughts?

Be careful about the priority. I have some stuff in that repo that replaces [base] packages.

Cheers,

Niki

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On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:

William L. Maltby a écrit :

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I tried to get and test this for you, and me. Can't access the repo.

# uname -a Linux centos501.homegroannetworking 2.6.18-53.1.14.el5 #1 SMP Wed Mar 5 11:36:49 EST 2008 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/kikinovak [kikinovak] enabled=0 priority=99 name=CentOS-$releasever - kikinovak baseurl=http://kikinovak.free.fr/centos/$releasever/kikinovak/$basearch #baseurl=http://kikinovak.free.fr/centos/5/kikinovak/i386/ gpgcheck=0 protect=0

Tried adding slash to the end of your original baseurl and added and tried the commented hardcoded URL. NG.

# yum --enablerepo=kikinovak list Loading "changelog" plugin Loading "downloadonly" plugin Loading "installonlyn" plugin Loading "kernel-module" plugin Loading "skip-broken" plugin Loading "fedorakmod" plugin Loading "repolist" plugin Loading "fastestmirror" plugin Loading "tsflags" plugin Loading "allowdowngrade" plugin Loading "priorities" plugin

Error getting repository data for kikinovak, repository not found

Any thoughts?

Yes. Replace 'enabled=0' by 'enabled=1' :oD

Need more coffee too? ;-) Above I had

yum --enablerepo=kikinovak list

That "otter" do it, no?

Cheers,

Niki

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On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 08:06 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:16 AM, William L. Maltby CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:

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On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:

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William L. Maltby a écrit :

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# cat /etc/yum.repos.d/kikinovak

Try adding a ".repo" to the file name.

LOL. That "otter" do it, with a couple more cups of coffee!

Sorry to have bothered.

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Thanks,

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 11:31 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 11:22 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:

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On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 08:06 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote:

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On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:16 AM, William L. Maltby CentOS4Bill@triad.rr.com wrote:

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On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 12:10 +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:

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William L. Maltby a écrit :

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Kiki,

It looks like it will take about 13 hours to download. I'm afraid I would soak up your outgoing bandwidth. If I don't hear from you in an hour or so, I'll kill it.

I guess this reinforces Johnny's earlier comments in a thread about torrents giving full speed download regardless. I could host a torrent if I do get it all down, but start up would be slow as my upload speed is not great either (appx. 60KB/second). But once it got going, if there were a lot of participants, it would do well.

OTOH, with an estimated early May 5 upgrade release, it may not be worth it?

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 17:07 +0100, Niki Kovacs wrote:

William L. Maltby a écrit :

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It looks like it will take about 13 hours to download. I'm afraid I would soak up your outgoing bandwidth. If I don't hear from you in an hour or so, I'll kill it.

I'm hosting this on a publicly available server, and sometimes, download speeds are throttled. But 13 hours seems excessive to me. I'm using my own repo to install various client machines in geographically distinct places (France and Austria), and the average speed is about 40 kbps (it can be much more, though). As for "sucking the bandwidth", don't bother, it's not "my" server, it's public FTP and not my machine. Go ahead.

As I mentioned, things sped up considerably. I got 3 installed, after removing the 2 that was on there (Karan, the 1.* from original install is still there so I s/b OK when the new release comes out), got the plugins done (esp. Java and its console for an app that is fairly importatnt to me - means I don't have to do Winblows) and looks pretty good.

It picked up my old user config stuff OK and worked well.

Only observed problem seem to be with a screen layout on a certain website. Some "tabs" it presents are partially hidden and no amount of <CTL>+<-|+> will make them visible enough to read completely. I'll have to browse in settings a bit and see if there is something there that might cure that problem.

But it'll do what I can use it for.

I've got to say thanks.

I'll post more to this thread if I see any other adverse behavior.

Cable system acting up today - wasted some hour or so on the horn with tech support.

Cheers,

Niki

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Again, thanks for the contribution.

William L. Maltby wrote:

On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 11:31 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:

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P.S. It's the xulrunner @ 57MB that looks like the killer. FF is only 11MB. Looks like things have sped up. 10MB done already in 11 minutes.

I'll keep an eye on it.

There is an early build for ff3 at : http://dev.centos.org/~z00dax/misc/ I was going to build and maintain it for centosplus, but since upstream are looking at adding it into the main distro, I wont need to do that.

One thing worth noting about this rpm on my dev.centos.org site - it wont hanck or interfere with anything else on the machine, it sets up a parallel firefox3 entry, and runs parallel to the firefox already included in the distro ( so you can have both installed )

Karanbir Singh wrote:

William L. Maltby wrote:

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On Sun, 2008-03-16 at 11:31 -0400, William L. Maltby wrote:

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P.S. It's the xulrunner @ 57MB that looks like the killer. FF is only 11MB. Looks like things have sped up. 10MB done already in 11 minutes.

I'll keep an eye on it.

There is an early build for ff3 at : http://dev.centos.org/~z00dax/misc/ I was going to build and maintain it for centosplus, but since upstream are looking at adding it into the main distro, I wont need to do that.

One thing worth noting about this rpm on my dev.centos.org site - it wont hanck or interfere with anything else on the machine, it sets up a parallel firefox3 entry, and runs parallel to the firefox already included in the distro ( so you can have both installed )

I am using this one on my main workstation ... it seems to work fine. I would not use in on dozens of machines in a production environments though as the beta's are NOT getting security updates, etc.