I just had a strange occurrence. I was printing out some PDFs and I pulled one down off the web (my wireless bill) and tried to print page 1. My browser properly fired up AR9, but nothing printed. I tried agian, still nothing. I saved the file, opened it with the Document Viewer and it can't print the file either. I tried opening it with GIMP, and it gets this error:
Opening '/home/mhr/Documents/pdfs/vzwA0418.pdf' failed: Plug-in could not open image
I couldn't find any related data in the logs (spooler logs are all empty, nothing in dmesg). I tried disabling and enabling the printer, then turning it off and on to no effect (which is not too surprising).
Anyone have a clue where I should look or what to do?
Thanks.
mhr
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
I just had a strange occurrence. I was printing out some PDFs and I pulled one down off the web (my wireless bill) and tried to print page
- My browser properly fired up AR9, but nothing printed. I tried
agian, still nothing. I saved the file, opened it with the Document Viewer and it can't print the file either. I tried opening it with GIMP, and it gets this error:
Opening '/home/mhr/Documents/pdfs/vzwA0418.pdf' failed: Plug-in could not open image
I couldn't find any related data in the logs (spooler logs are all empty, nothing in dmesg). I tried disabling and enabling the printer, then turning it off and on to no effect (which is not too surprising).
Follow-up:
I opened up my WXP VM and ran Photoshop Elements to open the file (no errors), created a new PDF of page 1 and it prints just fine....
mhr
At Thu, 13 May 2010 10:35:27 -0700 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:28 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
I just had a strange occurrence. I was printing out some PDFs and I pulled one down off the web (my wireless bill) and tried to print page
- My browser properly fired up AR9, but nothing printed. I tried
agian, still nothing. I saved the file, opened it with the Document Viewer and it can't print the file either. I tried opening it with GIMP, and it gets this error:
Opening '/home/mhr/Documents/pdfs/vzwA0418.pdf' failed: Plug-in could not open image
I couldn't find any related data in the logs (spooler logs are all empty, nothing in dmesg). I tried disabling and enabling the printer, then turning it off and on to no effect (which is not too surprising).
Follow-up:
I opened up my WXP VM and ran Photoshop Elements to open the file (no errors), created a new PDF of page 1 and it prints just fine....
I'm guessing the file contains some MS-Windows specific thingy (image or embeded object), for which you don't have the whatever plugin to deal with. Photoshop Elements (for MS-Windows) appearently has whatever plugin that can deal with this embeded thingy.
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On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Robert Heller heller@deepsoft.com wrote:
I'm guessing the file contains some MS-Windows specific thingy (image or embedded object), for which you don't have the whatever plugin to deal with. Photoshop Elements (for MS-Windows) apparently has whatever plugin that can deal with this embeded thingy.
That makes sense. Does anyone know if any of the newer releases of GNOME/GIMP have more plugins/fixes along these lines? Sounds like something that should be back-ported to CentOS 5 (and 6?).
Just asking....
Thanks
mhr
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Robert Heller heller@deepsoft.com wrote:
I'm guessing the file contains some MS-Windows specific thingy (image or embedded object), for which you don't have the whatever plugin to deal with. Photoshop Elements (for MS-Windows) apparently has whatever plugin that can deal with this embeded thingy.
That makes sense. Does anyone know if any of the newer releases of GNOME/GIMP have more plugins/fixes along these lines? Sounds like something that should be back-ported to CentOS 5 (and 6?).
Have you tried evince?
mark
On 5/13/2010 2:45 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Robert Hellerheller@deepsoft.com wrote:
I'm guessing the file contains some MS-Windows specific thingy (image or embedded object), for which you don't have the whatever plugin to deal with. Photoshop Elements (for MS-Windows) apparently has whatever plugin that can deal with this embeded thingy.
That makes sense. Does anyone know if any of the newer releases of GNOME/GIMP have more plugins/fixes along these lines? Sounds like something that should be back-ported to CentOS 5 (and 6?).
Have you tried evince?
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
Yummy.
No, seriously, I'm waiting for it to download - 61Mb(!). Will post when it's done....
Okay, that worked.
Thanks.
Still, shouldn't evince, GIMP, etc. have a backport update to fix this?
mhr
MHR wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
Yummy.
<g>
No, seriously, I'm waiting for it to download - 61Mb(!). Will post when it's done....
Right, a document viewer, that lets you fill some stuff in once in a while. That's only, oh, 8 times the size of firefox....
Hmm, I wonder if it's actually a semi-stripped version of Adobe, with most of the features disabled.... <snip> mark
m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
MHR wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
Yummy.
<g> > No, seriously, I'm waiting for it to download - 61Mb(!). Will post > when it's done....
Right, a document viewer, that lets you fill some stuff in once in a while. That's only, oh, 8 times the size of firefox....
Hmm, I wonder if it's actually a semi-stripped version of Adobe, with most of the features disabled....
When someone can convince all the Linux distributions to ship compatible shared libraries you might start to see convenient binaries to run on them. But not before.
Mike wrote:
m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
MHR wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
Yummy.
<g> > No, seriously, I'm waiting for it to download - 61Mb(!). Will post > when it's done....
Right, a document viewer, that lets you fill some stuff in once in a while. That's only, oh, 8 times the size of firefox....
Hmm, I wonder if it's actually a semi-stripped version of Adobe, with most of the features disabled....
When someone can convince all the Linux distributions to ship compatible shared libraries you might start to see convenient binaries to run on them. But not before.
Sorry, to me that's a nonsequitur to what I wrote. I'm thinking it's all there, but they have a key in, or not in, that keeps it from doing more. Libraries? Isn't that LSB?
mark
On 5/14/2010 8:51 AM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Right, a document viewer, that lets you fill some stuff in once in a while. That's only, oh, 8 times the size of firefox....
Hmm, I wonder if it's actually a semi-stripped version of Adobe, with most of the features disabled....
When someone can convince all the Linux distributions to ship compatible shared libraries you might start to see convenient binaries to run on them. But not before.
Sorry, to me that's a nonsequitur to what I wrote. I'm thinking it's all there, but they have a key in, or not in, that keeps it from doing more. Libraries? Isn't that LSB?
No, LSB 'should' define a standard set of libraries and their locations, but it's actually just a committee that meets once in a while and decides to move things around arbitrarily without providing enough of standard to make a program run. So, every distribution has to have it's own repositories with every program rebuilt uniquely for that distribution instead of being able to share this work and anyone distributing binaries that they'd like to run on more than a tiny fraction of linux boxes has to statically link copies of the libraries they need which not only bloats the download size but also wastes RAM at runtime and requires complete program replacement for every little library update. I'm amazed that companies like Adobe and VMware bother with that kind of crap at all.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
Yummy.
No, seriously, I'm waiting for it to download - 61Mb(!). Will post when it's done....
Okay, that worked.
And now, today, it failed again (both evince and AR), same kind of file. The only difference is that this appeared in dmesg:
brcupsconfig3[1548]: segfault at 0000000075616665 rip 0000000000c6fcc3 rsp 00000000ff96b9f4 error 6
Guess I have to keep running stuff back through my VMWXP.
Sigh.
mhr
MHR wrote, On 06/01/2010 01:01 PM:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:09 PM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Or the yummable Adobe Reader? http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/03/install-adobe-acrobat-pdf-read...
Yummy.
No, seriously, I'm waiting for it to download - 61Mb(!). Will post when it's done....
Okay, that worked.
And now, today, it failed again (both evince and AR), same kind of file. The only difference is that this appeared in dmesg:
brcupsconfig3[1548]: segfault at 0000000075616665 rip 0000000000c6fcc3 rsp 00000000ff96b9f4 error 6
Guess I have to keep running stuff back through my VMWXP.
Question 1: are you running a brother (or brothers, I don't recall if the brand has the s or not) printer?
If yes, then Q2: Are you running a driver from them (or one of the third party repos) or just the stock CentOS stuff?
Google-ing the following groups is somewhat interesting: brcupsconfig3 brcupsconfig3 "segfault at"
Not saying there is not a problem, but perhaps there is a problem in a deeper place that needs reported to the appropriate folks.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Todd Denniston Todd.Denniston@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:
Question 1: are you running a brother (or brothers, I don't recall if the brand has the s or not) printer?
Yes, Brother HL2140
If yes, then Q2: Are you running a driver from them (or one of the third party repos) or just the stock CentOS stuff?
I'm running the Brother HL2140 for CUPS driver (/usr/share/cups/model/HL2140.ppd) from 12/2008.
Google-ing the following groups is somewhat interesting: brcupsconfig3 brcupsconfig3 "segfault at"
Did that, not sure that's the problem (although your message showed up in the search results :-).
Reason? As I stated in a previous message on this thread, GIMP can't load the PDF either - it gets a "Plug-in could not open image" error, which indicates to me that there's something too Windozey about this file. AR has no trouble opening the file on my WXP VM, and even Photoshop Elements handles it just fine.
Not saying there is not a problem, but perhaps there is a problem in a deeper place that needs reported to the appropriate folks.
You're probably right about that; I'm just not sure whom that would be. Adobe doesn't take problem reports from AR or Flash users (unless you cheat like I've done and lie about who I am and what kind of service I deserve), the GNOME folks don't like our ancient revisions and won't support them (which is sad since you can't just pull down a whole GDE release and install it separately from or over the distribution without a lot of work - it's a Red Hat release that's still in service...), etc.
I looked up the drivers at http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-HL-2140 and decided to try the hpijs-pcl5e ("recommended driver"), and it prints a test page just fine, also odts, pdfs, jpgs and pngs, but it doesn't print this particular pdf either. The main difference is that it hangs the print job and lpstat shows this:
$ lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Brother2140 device for Brother2140: usb://Brother/HL-2140%20series device for HPOJ4315: hp:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN7AJH318W04GQ Brother2140 accepting requests since Tue 01 Jun 2010 11:14:16 AM PDT HPOJ4315 accepting requests since Thu 22 Apr 2010 10:47:46 AM PDT printer Brother2140 is idle. enabled since Tue 01 Jun 2010 11:14:16 AM PDT /undefined in --get-- printer HPOJ4315 is idle. enabled since Thu 22 Apr 2010 10:47:46 AM PDT Brother2140-5135 mhr 200704 Tue 01 Jun 2010 11:11:09 AM PDT
So at least I get an error indication, not just silence.
Thanks.
mhr
On 6/1/2010 1:33 PM, MHR wrote:
You're probably right about that; I'm just not sure whom that would be. Adobe doesn't take problem reports from AR or Flash users (unless you cheat like I've done and lie about who I am and what kind of service I deserve), the GNOME folks don't like our ancient revisions and won't support them (which is sad since you can't just pull down a whole GDE release and install it separately from or over the distribution without a lot of work - it's a Red Hat release that's still in service...), etc.
Can you try it with the RHEL6 beta (perhaps in a VM) to see if it is still a problem with more current revisions?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell@gmail.com wrote:
Can you try it with the RHEL6 beta (perhaps in a VM) to see if it is still a problem with more current revisions?
Don't really have the facilities to experiment like that....
Thanks, though.
mhr
Follow-up
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM, MHR mhullrich@gmail.com wrote:
I looked up the drivers at http://www.openprinting.org/printer/Brother/Brother-HL-2140 and decided to try the hpijs-pcl5e ("recommended driver"), and it prints a test page just fine, also odts, pdfs, jpgs and pngs, but it doesn't print this particular pdf either. The main difference is that it hangs the print job and lpstat shows this:
$ lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Brother2140 device for Brother2140: usb://Brother/HL-2140%20series device for HPOJ4315: hp:/usb/Officejet_4300_series?serial=CN7AJH318W04GQ Brother2140 accepting requests since Tue 01 Jun 2010 11:14:16 AM PDT HPOJ4315 accepting requests since Thu 22 Apr 2010 10:47:46 AM PDT printer Brother2140 is idle. enabled since Tue 01 Jun 2010 11:14:16 AM PDT /undefined in --get-- printer HPOJ4315 is idle. enabled since Thu 22 Apr 2010 10:47:46 AM PDT Brother2140-5135 mhr 200704 Tue 01 Jun 2010 11:11:09 AM PDT
So at least I get an error indication, not just silence.
OTOH, the hpijs driver is about 1/3 as fast as the CUPS driver.
It also seems to keep the printer humming a lot longer after each print job is done (not 100% sure about that).
I'm going back to the CUPS driver.
Foo.
mhr
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 04:18:11PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/13/2010 2:45 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Robert Hellerheller@deepsoft.com wrote:
I'm guessing the file contains some MS-Windows specific thingy (image or embedded object), for which you don't have the whatever plugin to deal with. Photoshop Elements (for MS-Windows) apparently has whatever plugin that can deal with this embeded thingy.
That makes sense. Does anyone know if any of the newer releases of GNOME/GIMP have more plugins/fixes along these lines? Sounds like something that should be back-ported to CentOS 5 (and 6?).
Have you tried evince?
I've had similalr trouble with acrobat reader where some documents simply don't come out of the printer. When that happens, I've been able to print from evince or othr PDF reader util on Linux.
Oddly, the same PDF prints fine on windows acrobat reader. go figure.
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:45 PM, m.roth@5-cent.us wrote:
Have you tried evince?
mark
Document Viewer = evince
I just tried it with AR by opening the file with it, but it also does not print the page.
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