I have a WinXP guest under VMWare on my CentOS 5.1 host and it can access the CentOS printer(s) just fine.
However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be able to print on the CentOS printer. When I try to connect to the printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
Any suggestions?
(This "slightly" really is - it _is_ directly related to CentOS, unlike my previous FC8 post....)
Thanks.
mhr
However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be able to print on the CentOS printer. When I try to connect to the printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
Any suggestions?
Possibly name resolution issues on the Win98 box? Can you resolve a ping using the exact hostname you use for the printer (I assume the CentOS box emulates a Lanman printer? Never printed on a CentOS box...).
jlc
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:54 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be able to print on the CentOS printer. When I try to connect to the printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
Any suggestions?
Possibly name resolution issues on the Win98 box?
There was no hosts file - I edited the hosts.sam (sample) file and added both machines to it. But there must be more.
Can you resolve a ping using the exact hostname you use for the printer
I can ping the CentOS host by IP address and, now that there's a hosts file, by host name as well. However, Win98 can't see the network at all - claims there isn't one. It is running the M$ client for M$ networks (and for NetBIOS networks, as well), but the network is not getting properly initialized. And now we are definitely sliding OT here (is there a forum where and answer to this can be found?).
(I assume the CentOS box emulates a Lanman printer? Never printed on a CentOS box...).
'fraid I don't know what that means - the printer is just available to be shared via samba and so should be visible on a M$ network (like in the XP guest?).
I'm going to be playing with the Windows box RSN - when I'm done with it, it will have Win98, XP Pro and, of course, CentOS, but there's a fair amount of work to be done before that will work.
mhr
Mark Hull-Richter wrote:
I can ping the CentOS host by IP address and, now that there's a hosts file, by host name as well. However, Win98 can't see the network at all
- claims there isn't one. It is running the M$ client for M$ networks
(and for NetBIOS networks, as well), but the network is not getting properly initialized. And now we are definitely sliding OT here (is there a forum where and answer to this can be found?).
Win98 uses a much older version of Microsoft Networking. it works strictly on the old NBT ports 135/137/138/139 and not the newer native SMB port 445 stuff that XP etc use. You need to make sure Samba is configured to support this retroactive stuff. I believe it also has to support an older "LM Hash" or something for passwords (LM means LAN Manager, which is what SMB networking grew out of). And, you probably will want to setup WINS, where the SAMBA server can be a WINS server, and ALL SMB clients should be configured to reference this WINS server by its IP, that takes care of SMB host resolutions much better than messing with lmhosts files.
btw, hosts.sam is just a 'sample' file. windows uses HOSTS for tcp name resolution (much like unix), and uses lmhosts for LM Netbios resolutions. format is similar, and there's some fuzzy crossover between these which makes troubleshooting fun.
-----Original Message----- From: centos-bounces@centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces@centos.org] On Behalf Of Mark Hull-Richter Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:19 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: RE: [CentOS] Slightly OT? - How do I set up Win98 to access aprinter on my CentOS box?
On Fri, 2008-05-02 at 15:54 -0600, Joseph L. Casale wrote:
However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be able to print on the CentOS printer. When I try to connect to the printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
Any suggestions?
Possibly name resolution issues on the Win98 box?
There was no hosts file - I edited the hosts.sam (sample) file and added both machines to it. But there must be more.
Can you resolve a ping using the exact hostname you use for the printer
I can ping the CentOS host by IP address and, now that there's a hosts file, by host name as well. However, Win98 can't see the network at all - claims there isn't one. It is running the M$ client for M$ networks (and for NetBIOS networks, as well), but the network is not getting properly initialized. And now we are definitely sliding OT here (is there a forum where and answer to this can be found?).
(I assume the CentOS box emulates a Lanman printer? Never printed on a
CentOS box...).
'fraid I don't know what that means - the printer is just available to be shared via samba and so should be visible on a M$ network (like in the XP guest?).
I'm going to be playing with the Windows box RSN - when I'm done with it, it will have Win98, XP Pro and, of course, CentOS, but there's a fair amount of work to be done before that will work.
mhr
Have you enabled netbios in the win98 machine?
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on 5-2-2008 11:11 AM MHR spake the following:
I have a WinXP guest under VMWare on my CentOS 5.1 host and it can access the CentOS printer(s) just fine.
However, I also have a Win98 box on the LAN that I would like to be able to print on the CentOS printer. When I try to connect to the printer, Win98 tells me that it can't find the network...?
Any suggestions?
(This "slightly" really is - it _is_ directly related to CentOS, unlike my previous FC8 post....)
Thanks.
mhr
Can the win98 box resolve the Centos host in any way?
Remember that older lanman clients can only see smb names of 12 characters and less.
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